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  • vB Martin
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    #11
    fighting with broken hands doesn't stand a chance of ending a boxer's career? A torn bicep?

    A torn rotator cuff isn't a debilitating injury. All it takes is time to heal, and rarely surgery.

    Most rotator cuff problems are treated without surgery. Early problems usually resolve with home treatment, such as ice and resting the shoulder. Physical therapy may also help. Medications to reduce inflammation and relieve pain may be recommended.

    Symptoms that appear to be related to impingement are usually first treated with conservative home treatment measures and rehabilitation techniques. If this treatment does not sufficiently reduce symptoms, surgery may be considered.1

    If a partial or complete rotator cuff tear is suspected, treatment will depend upon the amount of degeneration that is present. Surgery may be the first treatment choice for a young person who injures or tears an otherwise healthy cuff. A young person will usually have little or no degeneration of the rotator cuff, which makes surgery likely to repair the problem successfully. In addition, the rotator cuff usually heals well following the procedure, resulting in overall improved function. However, most people over age 25 with rotator cuff problems have some degree of degeneration complicating treatment decisions. For these people, home treatment and physical therapy are often recommended before surgery is considered.

    Surgery can repair a tear of the rotator cuff, but it cannot reverse problems that occur with advanced degeneration, such as the accumulation of scar tissue and tendons that are tough and fibrous. Physical therapy benefits most people with degeneration, whether or not they have surgery.
    Again, he was ahead on all 3 cards, the least of which had him 5 points ahead. 9 minutes, minimize the use of the arm as much as possible, maybe even lose those rounds and you still win while protecting the injury as much as possible. That's what a real champion would do, anyway...

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    • vB Martin
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      #12
      Originally posted by NichtGeflechten
      What a complete ****tard.....
      no insult was intended, but I've noticed that a significant number of the original German fanbase seems to feel the K Bros can do no wrong.

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      • Neuraxis
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        #13
        Apparently you don't watch very much baseball.

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        • vB Martin
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          #14
          apparently you don't know the difference between a punch, which requires limited rotation of the shoulder, and a throw, which often requires full rotation.

          2 different sports, 2 different actions, 2 different consequences.

          But you're right. I find baseball almost as fun to watch as curling

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          • NichtGeflechten
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            #15
            no insult was intended, but I've noticed that a significant number of the original German fanbase seems to feel the K Bros can do no wrong.
            I am an American and his career would have been over if he didn't throw in the towel: he had 4 hours of surgery, 6 months of daily rehab and has a very large scar there. My brother-in-law's professional baseball career was ruined by rotator cuff problems even after 4 surgeries. Maybe he is a quitter as well....

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            • Neuraxis
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              #16
              Either way Vitali never was able to gain back the power that he had before it.

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              • NichtGeflechten
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                #17
                apparently you don't know the difference between a punch, which requires limited rotation of the shoulder, and a throw, which often requires full rotation.
                Maybe if you punch like a girl this might be true.....

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                • realheavyhands
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                  #18
                  jones was quick as hell.. he just dont got know fight left,, he aint old phyically but maybe mentally.. he got so much damn money he dont got nothin to fight for.. hopkins dont look too old to me .... tyson i think will reclaim the belts and holyfield got beat by an ali type fiight huge mismatch techniacally in james toney and toney is 36 so your very wrong goloata looks better then he ever has at 36 lewis was at his best against tyson at 36 the thirtys is the prime of knowledge and athletism combined..the guy who just knocked jones out looked better then i ever seen him at 35... this post is rediculous tarver is in his prime at 35 ,, you can not be serious lol... in this sense wisdoms kills... i think delahoya didnt know what he was gettin into i think he should fight pretty boy floyyd.. and i like him to win that...but jones is done he never was good technically .. he sux technically.. i agree jones is done he should of stayed at heavyweight to get his ass beat at least then he would of never lost to a light heavy and his speed would kill even more.. jones is a fool
                  Last edited by realheavyhands; 09-26-2004, 05:55 PM.

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                  • vB Martin
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                    #19
                    study the mechanics of both actions.

                    Vitali is a straight puncher for the most part. he doesn't loop a lot of punches. never has.

                    Even in a wide left hook, the shoulder goes through a quarter rotation, max.

                    Almost any throw in baseball requires at least 50% rotation, except between the bases. It's a wider arc, larger range of motion and uses more of the muscles and tendons that comprize the rotator cuff. It's a much more debilitating injury for a baseball player than for a boxer.

                    It doesn't take much to see this if you're willing to.

                    Vitali is probably the best heavyweight out there right now, I just don't think he has what it takes to be considered a great champion. I honestly hope he proves me wrong.

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                    • realheavyhands
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                      #20
                      wlad skills are supier to vitali especially his power and speed... he just has to learn his own style.. i think he needs to stand up and fight like vitali.. emanual steward can teach agility .. they gotta stand up stiff and tall

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