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  • TommyGunn'
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    #91
    Originally posted by BLooDCalibuR
    Aren't you guys the same people saying he was dodging people years ago by the likes of:

    Hatton
    Gatti
    Cotto (who's been on record quoted saying "I am not ready for Mayweather")

    Hell, many people even said he was dodging Carlos Baldomir because he fought Zab Judah instead.

    And then the Gatti fight came, then what?
    Then the Hatton fight came, then what?
    Then the Baldomir fight came, then what?

    Oh, and he called Mosley out when Shane was at the peak of his career, but then it turned the other way around in recent years with people stating he's dodging Mosley? And now he's fighting him anyway. But now that he is, there's another excuse: "He has no choice now". Lol a coward that you say he is would still try to avoid a fight if they were going to avoid it all along in the first place, even if he has no choice.

    Not to mention many boxing experts and analysts were stating years ago that Zab Judah would be the most competitive fighter in terms of technical boxing skills for Mayweather. Even Roy Jones Jr. corrected thoughts of a Costa Tsyu or Casamayor fight for a Zab Judah fight instead. If anyone knows Roy well enough they'd know Roy is a very intuitive fighter and can see through the styles of other fighters which is why he was able to land punches at will during his prime. So one can see this as Roy seeing through all the possible contenders for Mayweather at the time, and finding that within his calculations, a Zab Judah fight would be a better and more competitive fight for Mayweather in terms of pure tactical boxing talent.

    And you can see that he was completely correct when the fight did happen. Zab was the only one to actually out-box Mayweather in the middle of the ring for the first 3 rounds until Mayweather does what he does that no other fighter can do so consistently: Adapt in the middle of a fight. I'll throw it in there that I've seen a Zab Judah fight being the most competitive one for him in terms of boxing talent since many years ago too. I've called many things out in the past before that have come to passing as TRUE.

    But what happened after that Zab fight? The haters downplayed it, calling Judah a C class fighter. Punks who don't know how to look for technical boxing skills, mainly because they aren't skilled boxers themselves, are usually the ones who come to this point of view.
    He wasnt avoiding Hatton or Gatti, Cotto he did avoid.

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    • shade darkar
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      #92
      Originally posted by PBF Right Hand
      Floyd is da man. Best eva.

      Stop hatin.

      Anyone he fights he schools em.

      Fact.
      must have missed the castillo fight ay?

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      • BLooDCalibuR
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        #93
        Originally posted by TommyGunn'
        First off, Roach told Manny to accept 50-50 to face Hatton, Manny said no. Roach trains Manny he doesnt call shots.

        Secondly, i deal in facts and the fact remains that a 24 day cut off would not be a smart thing for a juicer to propose. Why? Because starting cycles of EPO at 24 days will get you caught. Spin it any way you like but the fact will always remain.

        I dont expect you to view these facts as logical either, one thing ive noticed on these message boards is facts can be hard to handle for some.



        Me. Ok Mr intellectual, lets see if you can accept the fact that Mayweather refused to face Manny in a test where it would be impossible for him to cheat without being caught.

        I await the typical nonsensical fanboy reply.....
        Originally posted by TommyGunn'
        http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news....g_california07

        Ive had two hits from Mayweather groupies. :wank:
        All that long posting and you still chose to beat around the bush and took things out of context.

        You try really hard to sound correct despite being fully aware of your wrongdoings in the way that you argue.

        Your entire argument crumbles with one statement:

        Who said he had to be using only EPO?

        P.S.
        So you're more of an expert on ALL the PEDs (HGH, EPO, all types of steroids, etc.) than drug experts and BALCO employee Victor Conte? Okay.

        You make this too easy.

        Next.

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        • PBF Right Hand
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          #94
          Originally posted by shade darkar
          must have missed the castillo fight ay?
          Castillo fight doesn't count.

          Floyd won that fight fair n square. Schooled Castillo good during that fight.

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          • shade darkar
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            #95
            Originally posted by PBF Right Hand
            Castillo fight doesn't count.

            Floyd won that fight fair n square. Schooled Castillo good during that fight.
            hahaha sure he did.

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            • BLooDCalibuR
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              #96
              Originally posted by TommyGunn'
              He wasnt avoiding Hatton or Gatti, Cotto he did avoid.
              Cotto avoided him. There were fighters in the past many years ago, even earlier than the Gatti fight, who he wanted to fight but did not want to fight him, plain and simple, so he did not fight them. Cotto flat out stated he was not ready for Mayweather, so Mayweather moved on. He had a De La Hoya and Hatton fight during those times before he retired. Not to mention he also had to fight Zab and Baldomir to quell all the haters saying

              "He's dodging Zab"
              and
              "Omg why's he fighting Zab when Baldomir is the one with the belt!?"

              And you want to fit in Cotto somewhere in there during a time where Cotto flat out stated he didn't want to fight Mayweather?

              Again, stop taking things out of context without proper explanation and details. You ignore details surrounding your argument and single things out to pretend you're correct. Sometimes I wonder if you're trying to fool the readers or if you're actually fooling yourself.

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              • TommyGunn'
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                #97
                Originally posted by BLooDCalibuR
                All that long posting and you still chose to beat around the bush and took things out of context.

                You try really hard to sound correct despite being fully aware of your wrongdoings in the way that you argue.

                Your entire argument crumbles with one statement:

                Who said he had to be using only EPO?

                P.S.
                So you're more of an expert on ALL the PEDs (HGH, EPO, all types of steroids, etc.) than drug experts and BALCO employee Victor Conte? Okay.

                You make this too easy.

                Next.
                I'm obviously more of an expert than you are. My argument is backed up by facts and and proof, cant say the same about yours. You Mayweather groupies make it easy, you know you're ****ed when you bring up Victor Contes name while trying to sound credible.

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                • jpunieves
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by PBF Right Hand
                  Floyd is da man. Best eva.

                  Stop hatin.

                  Anyone he fights he schools em.

                  Fact.
                  aww.. another alt sad story

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                  • HARLEM AL
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by BLooDCalibuR
                    Aren't you guys the same people saying he was dodging people years ago by the likes of:

                    Hatton
                    Gatti
                    Cotto (who's been on record quoted saying "I am not ready for Mayweather")

                    Hell, many people even said he was dodging Carlos Baldomir because he fought Zab Judah instead.

                    And then the Gatti fight came, then what?
                    Then the Hatton fight came, then what?
                    Then the Baldomir fight came, then what?

                    Oh, and he called Mosley out when Shane was at the peak of his career, but then it turned the other way around in recent years with people stating he's dodging Mosley? And now he's fighting him anyway. But now that he is, there's another excuse: "He has no choice now". Lol a coward that you say he is would still try to avoid a fight if they were going to avoid it all along in the first place, even if he has no choice.

                    Not to mention many boxing experts and analysts were stating years ago that Zab Judah would be the most competitive fighter in terms of technical boxing skills for Mayweather. Even Roy Jones Jr. corrected thoughts of a Costa Tsyu or Casamayor fight for a Zab Judah fight instead. If anyone knows Roy well enough they'd know Roy is a very intuitive fighter and can see through the styles of other fighters which is why he was able to land punches at will during his prime. So one can see this as Roy seeing through all the possible contenders for Mayweather at the time, and finding that within his calculations, a Zab Judah fight would be a better and more competitive fight for Mayweather in terms of pure tactical boxing talent.

                    And you can see that he was completely correct when the fight did happen. Zab was the only one to actually out-box Mayweather in the middle of the ring for the first 3 rounds until Mayweather does what he does that no other fighter can do so consistently: Adapt in the middle of a fight. I'll throw it in there that I've seen a Zab Judah fight being the most competitive one for him in terms of boxing talent since many years ago too. I've called many things out in the past before that have come to passing as TRUE.

                    But what happened after that Zab fight? The haters downplayed it, calling Judah a C class fighter. Punks who don't know how to look for technical boxing skills, mainly because they aren't skilled boxers themselves, are usually the ones who come to this point of view.
                    Got dam playboy. This the second thread you murked.

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                    • V.WEBB
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by TommyGunn'
                      The only reason Mayweather and Pacquiao are not fighting is because Mayweather is scared of him. Theres always an angle with Floyd. There was an angle when he ducked Margarito, an angle when he ducked Cotto and now one when he ducks Little Manny. Anyone hear his interview with RA The Rugged Man? To quote Floyd after RA asked him why he aint fighting the best - "dont hate on my hustle"

                      Ummm, the guys admitting he's being a *****. Look up what the word hustle means.

                      Little Manny is just a pawn in the Mayweather hustle. Make the most money while avoiding the best fighters.
                      hi pullcounter

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