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  • silkyjohnson
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    #171
    Originally posted by TommyGunn'
    That was not the case, Baldomir wasnt in the running when he rejected Margarito. Floyd rejected $8m and tried to make a fight with Corey Spinks untill it fell through. The Baldomir fight wasnt spoke about untill well after the $8m was rejected.

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    Cotto wasnt ready for an elite fighter? He'd just spanked Zab and Mosley, he wanted Floyd and Arum was also calling for the fight. oint:
    yes but you failed to mention that margarito was only offered in order for arum to keep his star pupil. but mayweather had his eyes set on a much larger match in DLH. a guy Arum did not deal with at that time. so what did floyd do? he rejected the margarito fight and left Top Rank.

    can you seriously blame mayweather for going after DLH instead of a nobody named Margarito?

    mind you, the fight didn't happen right away, but it was DLH that left Mayweather waiting... Mayweather needed to keep fighting, hence he went after Cory Spinks but that fell thru so he went for Baldomir (the guy that had recently beaten Zab)

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    • TommyGunn'
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      #172
      Originally posted by mike19727
      Yawn, Tommy. I guess you missed the USADA article on roids posted on this site yesterday. Have you ever heard of masking agents? Again, read up before talking about suff you know nothing about.
      We're not talking about "Roids" we're talking about EPO. Learn the difference. EPO is not an anabolic steroid it is a Performance enhancer the produces more blood cells which help an athlete get more Oxygen into the body which will build endurance.
      Last edited by TommyGunn'; 01-23-2010, 07:34 AM.

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      • TommyGunn'
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        #173
        Originally posted by silkyjohnson
        yes but you failed to mention that margarito was only offered in order for arum to keep his star pupil. but mayweather had his eyes set on a much larger match in DLH. a guy Arum did not deal with at that time. so what did floyd do? he rejected the margarito fight and left Top Rank.

        can you seriously blame mayweather for going after DLH instead of a nobody named Margarito?

        mind you, the fight didn't happen right away, but it was DLH that left Mayweather waiting... Mayweather needed to keep fighting, hence he went after Cory Spinks but that fell thru so he went for Baldomir (the guy that had recently beaten Zab)
        BULL****.

        They said Floyd had hurt his hand.

        Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy.

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        • mike19727
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          #174
          Originally posted by TommyGunn'
          We're not talking about "Roids" we're talking about EPO. Learn the difference. EPO is not an anabolic steroid it is a Performance enhancxer the produces more blood cells which help an athlete get more Oxygen into the body which will build endurance.
          The difference Tommy is EPO can be masked 72 hours or sooner before testing.

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          • titan m
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            #175
            Originally posted by TommyGunn'
            The only reason Mayweather and Pacquiao are not fighting is because Mayweather is scared of him. Theres always an angle with Floyd. There was an angle when he ducked Margarito, an angle when he ducked Cotto and now one when he ducks Little Manny. Anyone hear his interview with RA The Rugged Man? To quote Floyd after RA asked him why he aint fighting the best - "dont hate on my hustle"

            Ummm, the guys admitting he's being a *****. Look up what the word hustle means.

            Little Manny is just a pawn in the Mayweather hustle. Make the most money while avoiding the best fighters.
            yeah i agree it does have to be said again, creating 50 threads a day about the same thing is not enough lol, get over it.

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            • TommyGunn'
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              #176
              Originally posted by mike19727
              The difference Tommy is EPO can be masked 72 hours or sooner before testing.
              You're talking about the urine test not blood testing.

              This is the extract here you seem to be quoting

              Blood and urine but it's got to be an effective urine program. Again, just a couple tests here and there that everyone knows about, or 72-hour notice that you're going to be tested, or 48-hour notice -- it has to be true, no-notice testing. And it has to be a broad menu of tests. And they don't test for EPO. What was reported on Mosley is that he was using EPO. And he could use it without regard for being caught because they weren't testing it -- and there is a urine-based test for most EPO. So you've got to start with an effective urine program and an effective blood program. And the reason, to answer your specific question, that you need to do blood is because there are certain, and several, potent performance-enhancers that are not detected in the urine. Of those, human growth hormone being one; HBOC, which is synthetic hemoglobin; certain forms of EPO, like Micera; and then, the transfusions."

              You cannot mask blood cells in your body.

              Let me tell you how it works.

              With a blood test it does not tell you what has been taken all the blood test tells you is theres ABNORMALITIES in the blood i.e more blood cells than there should be. You need the urine test to tell exactly what has been taken. That is why whenever a blood test is taken a urine test is also taken so they can check for abnormalties then test the urine to find out what has been taken.

              Manny has said they can take all the piss they want, whenever they want.

              It is simply impossible for Manny to cheat and not be caught starting his cycles at 24 days when it takes up to nine cycles for an athlete to gain a real advantage.
              Last edited by TommyGunn'; 01-23-2010, 07:53 AM.

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              • TommyGunn'
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                #177
                Originally posted by brian m
                yeah i agree it does have to be said again, creating 50 threads a day about the same thing is not enough lol, get over it.
                ummm, i made one thread.

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                • BLooDCalibuR
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by TommyGunn'
                  You girls need to do your homework before acting like you know whats up, Floyd walked away from the deal. Even his team tried to convince him to accept.
                  The article you quoted is outdated. It was later corrected that the news about "Mayweather's handlers tried to convince Mayweather to agree to a 24 day cutoff" as being false information. It never happened.

                  And even if it did, it has no bearing whatsoever on the fact that Pacquiao refused the test and therefore refused the fight. You can come up with all the excuses as to why he didn't take the test but the case will always stand that the ball was in his court and the only agreement that needed to be made was for him to take the test at max 14 days prior to the bout, period.

                  You're biased and blind. A typical Pac-nuthugger.





                  Originally posted by TommyGunn'
                  Shutdown once again, how can you have an credibility when you argued Marquez held the 140 title?

                  Still ducking my question aswell. HA HA
                  Typical attitude for a person who's losing the main argument at hand (among many other points that you're losing on) is to bring up something that the other person already admitted (twice) to making a statistical error on.

                  When someone's losing and getting humiliated badly, they tend to bring petty things up that have absolutely nothing to do with the issue being debated about.

                  Another thing I notice is that you tend to choose which portions of everyone's comments to argue against and not argue every point. Typical coward, just like his hero Pacquiao LOL.

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