It needs to be said again it seems

[TommyGunn']

You need to go back and do your research. There are some roids that are out your system in a matter of days. He can cheat and never get caught with the proper timing. I'm not saying he's a cheater,but if your clean, then why not take random test? Way to put the blame on mayweather but their both at faul,mayweather and PAC for refusing

I know the difference between roids and EPO. Nobody is talking about Roids here.

[BLooDCalibuR]

I know the difference between roids and EPO. Nobody is talking about Roids here.

Of course you're not, cuz you'd have no argument if you were. So you choose to do your usual tactic which is single things out or take things out of context and ignore everything else so that you have room to argue with something ******ed rofl.

[TommyGunn']

I never stated Cotto never wanted to fight him. I said when he was asked, Cotto flat out said no. When Cotto wanted it, Floyd had other fights lined up or was already retired. That's what we proved. But you ignored it and kept repeating and taking things OUT OF CONTEXT.

A quote from you -

Cotto avoided him. There were fighters in the past many years ago, even earlier than the Gatti fight, who he wanted to fight but did not want to fight him, plain and simple, so he did not fight them. Cotto flat out stated he was not ready for Mayweather, so Mayweather moved on. He had a De La Hoya and Hatton fight during those times before he retired. Not to mention he also had to fight Zab and Baldomir to quell all the haters saying

As i said, lame excuse Cotto was calling his ass out for a while. Arum was screaming for Mayweathers ***** ass to man up aswell.

Admit it, you're posting whatever purely for the sole purpose of saving any face because you care about what people on the internet think of you. After all, your usage of the word "noob" clearly shows you're from the gaming community. And those gamers, oh those gamers, they CARE =d.

I'm talking about boxing on a boxing site. Refute the facts ive provided or dont, i dont care. Facts are facts they dont help you save face, they're truth.

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Casamayor punched back, but he was knocked down again with about 7 seconds left in the round. Referee Tony Weeks stepped in the bout, and stopped the fight as he deemed Casamyor unable to continue. The official judges had the fight scored 95-95, 95-95, and 97-93 for Márquez before the 11th round knockout.[12] After the win, Ring magazine ranked Márquez second on its pound for pound list, and rated him the number one boxer in the Lightweight division.[13]
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You tried to cloud up the fact he did fight at Lightweight (for a considerable amount of time btw, not to mention PROVED he can fight contenders at that weight class) by stating it wasn't for the Lightweight belt but only for The Ring belt. My only mistake here was that it wasn't for the Super Lightweight but only the Lightweight division.

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After the win, Ring magazine ranked Márquez second on its pound for pound list, and rated him the number one boxer in the Lightweight division.[13]
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Márquez defended his Ring Lightweight title, and claimed the WBO, the WBA, and the IBO Lightweight championship titles.[14] After the fight Márquez expressed an interest in fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr.[15]This fight was named "Fight of the Year" for 2009 by ESPN.com.[16]
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My point was that he fought competitively enough at 135 (Lightweight) to consider moving up to 140 (Super Lightweight) and he himself called Mayweather out and stated he felt he needed to move up and find more opponents.

He didn't jump from 130 instantly to the Mayweather fight was my point. Don't try to take things out of context again like you just tried to do.

And now for the ownage post...

He fought for the Super Lightweight title in his previous fight, which is 1 division down. And he was on record saying he wanted to move up in weight.

Not saying the weight disadvantage wasn't there, but can you honestly say a shutout of that magnitude was JUST from the 2 LB weight difference? Lol.

You just don't outbox Marquez. He did though.

Once again, he never fought for no Super Lightweight title he fought for the lightweight title. Step ya game up.

Loved the way you just tried to backpedal. And you say i'm trying to save face. HA HA HA

[BLooDCalibuR]

A quote from you -

As i said, lame excuse Cotto was calling his ass out for a while. Arum was screaming for Mayweathers ***** ass to man up aswell.

You repeated yourself again without arguing my point. You're backpedaling really hard here.

Here, I'll make it easier for you to comprehend:

- Cotto refuses to fight Mayweather when Mayweather was free
- Mayweather has stacked plans (had to fight both Zab & Baldomir to avoid haters saying he dodged the other for whatever reason, and still ended up that way anyway; Went on to say he had 1 more fight before retiring)
- Mayweather fights De La Hoya. Then goes back on his word of retiring to fight Hatton which people have been saying he's been dodging for AGES prior to that bout. And then finally retires.

So where exactly do you fit Cotto calling him out in there? He had no room to accept it.

It's similar to the Mosley situation. Mosley was asked twice about Mayweather and made excuses, very obvious ducky ones (unlike Cotto who flat out was honest). And now he's been calling Mayweather out cuz he wants a fat ass payday. You all start saying he's ducking Mosley. Now the fight is in negotiation phases.

So tell me, when does it end? Rofl.

I'm talking about boxing on a boxing site. Refute the facts ive provided or dont, i dont care. Facts are facts they dont help you save face, they're truth.

You provided no facts as per our original argument. You took them out of context and twisted them around. Even went as far as quoting an article that just proved my point. You should read what you quote before quoting it.

And now for the ownage post...



Once again, he never fought for no Super Lightweight title he fought for the lightweight title. Step ya game up.

Loved the way you just tried to backpedal. And you say i'm trying to save face. HA HA HA

Read it again, I admitted I made a mistake when I stated "Super Lightweight" because it was in the "Lightweight" division. But that that wasn't my point in the first place. So regardless, my point was the following:

Marquez fought competitively enough at 135 that he wanted to move up in weight. And that he even stated he wanted to move up in weight AND called Mayweather out. So how are you going to downplay him fighting Marquez especially when he schooled him in a complete and utter shutout. Your hatred is clouding your mind son.





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Oh and in case you dodge this one, I'll repaste it:

I know the difference between roids and EPO. Nobody is talking about Roids here.

Of course you're not, cuz you'd have no argument if you were. So you choose to do your usual tactic which is single things out or take things out of context and ignore everything else so that you have room to argue with something ******ed rofl.

[TommyGunn']

You repeated yourself again without arguing my point. You're backpedaling really hard here.

Here, I'll make it easier for you to comprehend:

- Cotto refuses to fight Mayweather when Mayweather was free
- Mayweather has stacked plans (had to fight both Zab & Baldomir to avoid haters saying he dodged the other for whatever reason, and still ended up that way anyway; Went on to say he had 1 more fight before retiring)
- Mayweather fights De La Hoya. Then goes back on his word of retiring to fight Hatton which people have been saying he's been dodging for AGES prior to that bout. And then finally retires.

So where exactly do you fit Cotto calling him out in there? He had no room to accept it.

It's similar to the Mosley situation. Mosley was asked twice about Mayweather and made excuses, very obvious ducky ones (unlike Cotto who flat out was honest). And now he's been calling Mayweather out cuz he wants a fat ass payday. You all start saying he's ducking Mosley. Now the fight is in negotiation phases.

So tell me, when does it end? Rofl.

When did Cotto refuse to fight Mayweather, Mayweather has never made him offer. Source or BS.

You provided no facts as per our original argument. You took them out of context and twisted them around. Even went as far as quoting an article that just proved my point. You should read what you quote before quoting it.

Actually i did, if you choose to ignore then them its up to you. Ignoring facts has become a trend in here. Others commentyed on them, are you blinmd or just ******?

Read it again, I admitted I made a mistake when I stated "Super Lightweight" because it was in the "Lightweight" division. But that that wasn't my point in the first place. So regardless, my point was the following:

Backpedal HA HA HA

Marquez fought competitively enough at 135 that he wanted to move up in weight. And that he even stated he wanted to move up in weight AND called Mayweather out. So how are you going to downplay him fighting Marquez especially when he schooled him in a complete and utter shutout. Your hatred is clouding your mind son.

So the **** did Chico Corrales, Castillo, Gatti among others, they still got ****ed up at 147 though. Marquez is a great fighter, he was great enough to jump from featherweight to super featherweight then up to lightweight. Welterweight was just to much though, he claims this himself, he only took the fight for the money....He's on record saying that. You're showing your lust here by trying to make that out as some sort of credible win.

Of course you're not, cuz you'd have no argument if you were. So you choose to do your usual tactic which is single things out or take things out of context and ignore everything else so that you have room to argue with something ******ed rofl.

What have i dodged that you've posted. You've not posted anything worth dodging.

[javelin_fangs]

The only reason Mayweather and Pacquiao are not fighting is because Mayweather is scared of him. Theres always an angle with Floyd. There was an angle when he ducked Margarito, an angle when he ducked Cotto and now one when he ducks Little Manny. Anyone hear his interview with RA The Rugged Man? To quote Floyd after RA asked him why he aint fighting the best - "dont hate on my hustle"

Ummm, the guys admitting he's being a *****. Look up what the word hustle means.

Little Manny is just a pawn in the Mayweather hustle. Make the most money while avoiding the best fighters.

If this isn't a biased post I don't know what is. Believe what you will, but if you genuinely believe Manny Pacquiao had nothing to do with that fight falling apart then you're willfully ignorant.

[TommyGunn']

If this isn't a biased post I don't know what is. Believe what you will, but if you genuinely believe Manny Pacquiao had nothing to do with that fight falling apart then you're willfully ignorant.

Pacman was willing to get in there, Floyd wasnt. He refused to face Manny with a 24 day test that would have guarenteed him clean. One cannot force others into the ring. One must cut their loses when children start playing games and seek other challenges.

[baracuda]

The only reason Mayweather and Pacquiao are not fighting is because Mayweather is scared of him. Theres always an angle with Floyd. There was an angle when he ducked Margarito, an angle when he ducked Cotto and now one when he ducks Little Manny. Anyone hear his interview with RA The Rugged Man? To quote Floyd after RA asked him why he aint fighting the best - "dont hate on my hustle"

Ummm, the guys admitting he's being a *****. Look up what the word hustle means.

Little Manny is just a pawn in the Mayweather hustle. Make the most money while avoiding the best fighters.

yup...you cant possibly blame all of the people he ducked.......floyd has always been a big baby....

[BLooDCalibuR]

Actually i did, if you choose to ignore then them its up to you. Ignoring facts has become a trend in here. Others commentyed on them, are you blinmd or just ******?

First off you need to learn how to type properly. I think you're getting careless and rushing your replies now that you're losing places to run to in these arguments. Oh wait, you had no argument in the first place.

You keep repeating overused lines like "you're ignoring facts" when I haven't ignored anything we've talked about at all. You're forcing text-bits into places that they don't belong to. I'm starting to think you're not even arguing at all, and that you're really just trolling. A Pacquiao nut-hugger trolling.

Backpedal HA HA HA

So admitting that I made a statistical error is backpedaling? Lol I don't think that word means what you think it means kid. You're really reaching now for anything negative or ad hominem to say to me now that you're running out of places to run to.

So the **** did Chico Corrales, Castillo, Gatti among others, they still got ****ed up at 147 though. Marquez is a great fighter, he was great enough to jump from featherweight to super featherweight then up to lightweight. Welterweight was just to much though, he claims this himself, he only took the fight for the money....He's on record saying that. You're showing your lust here by trying to make that out as some sort of credible win.

If he did any less impressive than he did, I'd note it as a crappy win. So you're saying despite the complete shutout he did, it wasn't a credible win because Marquez moved up 1 weight class? Oh, and we'll just ignore that despite the fact that he did get schooled and looked easy, that if you watch him carefully, he's actually able to move, punch, and fight like he usually does. There were no physical hindrances in Marquez's performance that night. No, not like De La Hoya when he fought Pacquiao, where he lost the fight even before the fight started due to over-dehydration (as if it wasn't noticeable as soon as he came out of the locker room).

Again, you're really reaching. Admit it.

What have i dodged that you've posted. You've not posted anything worth dodging.

Did anybody catch the irony of this post? Rofl.
You dodged the very paragraph of mine that you quoted above that very segment that you just stated. Among many other points I made that you ran away from.

It's okay, don't worry, half the people on here are ****** and ******ed, so not everybody will see it.

It's okay really. You can run =).

[BLooDCalibuR]

Pacman was willing to get in there, Floyd wasnt. He refused to face Manny with a 24 day test that would have guarenteed him clean. One cannot force others into the ring. One must cut their loses when children start playing games and seek other challenges.

So that Pacquiao has a long 24 day window to train with PEDs? Nice.

And btw, if you're going to start typing in a philosophical context, make sure you type the right words and spell them correctly at the very least.

Here I'll help you:

"One must cut their losses...."

And the "one cannot force others into the ring" part was weak and pointless. It really was badly worded. I think you just wanted to say something for the sake of saying somethig (again) but couldn't think of anything to say, so you bull****ted your way through LOL.