[MUST READ] New Interview:Chief Executive of USADA, Explains Roids and Testing

[rambov]

This was an informative read, thanks

[IMDAZED]

nsac test randomly. do they test as frequently as say the french anti doping agency tests for EPO for cyclists? no, but neither does WADA or USADA
if the athletes are aware of what they are being tested for, then its not random. nsac tests randomly. i highly doubt NSAC tells athletes what they are being tested for.

Cat got your tongue, siggy?

[Siggy]

Where did you read that the NSAC tests randomly?

• Under Nevada ’s program, you get 48 hours’ notice to report to the closest accredited lab for a random test, plenty of time for many banned substances to clear your urine. “That’s random testing?” Goodman asks. “That’s random announced testing. They might as well shoot up a flare to tell them a test is coming.”

http://mmajunkie.com/news/3640/nsac-executive-director-keith-kizer-discusses-year-round-drug-testing-an-mmajunkiecom-interview.mma

Earlier this month the Nevada State Athletic Commission issued a memo detailing new drug-testing procedures -- procedures that could have a major impact on the use of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs by MMA fighters.

Keith Kizer is the executive director of the NSAC, which is generally considered the most powerful state athletic commission in all of combat sports. His memo sent a very clear message: MMA fighters are subject to drug testing at any time -- for just about any reason -- throughout the year, regardless of whether or not the fighter is scheduled for an upcoming event.

Basically, testing is now done year-round, and a missed test is treated as a failed test.

As Kizer stated in the memo:

"The process for selecting which fighters are required to submit to these tests will be based on: (i) a random selection;

even if give 24-48 hour notice how do athletes clear EPO out of their system in that amount of time? diuretics? masking agents?
those are tested for as well.
if you're abusing PEDs, they dont just leave your system naturally in that amount of time.

also, tim montgomery and marion jones. random, unannounced they beat the tests. there is no such thing as a foolproof method.

[icebergisonfire]

It honestly disturbs me that there are people that would excuse an athlete from possibly taking tests on the accounts of a phobia of needles or someone getting their feelings hurt. As with everything monumental that has changed in society, someone or a group of people decided that the status quo just isn't good enough anymore and we need to do better. The NSAC is the status quo and from all accounts, the boxing world needs to do better. We are here because we are supposed to be fans of the sport so we should all want everyone to be at their best, their natural best and when I see people come across and agrue against that, it bothers the hell out of me. I can't take anyone's argument seriously when they are armchair posting and arguing against science. Reputable people have come out and said the NSAC is a joke. Is Boxing going to do what Baseball did and just look the other way while it enjoys some sort of renaissance? Continuing to use the NSAC seems to be continuing a mockery of the ethics involved with the sweet science. All parties involved need to do better.

[IMDAZED]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/3640/nsac-...-interview.mma


even if give 24-48 hour notice how do athletes clear EPO out of their system in that amount of time? diuretics? masking agents?
those are tested for as well.
if you're abusing PEDs, they dont just leave your system naturally in that amount of time.

also, tim montgomery and marion jones. random, unannounced they beat the tests. there is no such thing as a foolproof method.

1. If you're given notice, is the test random?

2. 24-48hrs is sufficient time to clear it out of your system.

[Tsukiyomi]

There is some really poor reading comprehension going on here.

[Tsukiyomi]

But not blood test.And the best way to catch a cheater like Pac is random blood and urine testing so that way the boxer wont have time to mask it and also they are testing for different types of Performance enhancing drugs some of which can`t be detected by Urine.

The urine test is very easy and quick to mask, which considering it's importance, needs to be frequent and random. Pac agreed to this.

The blood test, according to the interview, is not as easy to mask. It takes time. This is a good reason why a fighter needs to take blood test as well, yes, but it is also a reason why a cutoff point does not compromise the testing significantly.

"...I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."

I don't know why I am the only one in the thread to mention that quote.

[MindBat]

It honestly disturbs me that there are people that would excuse an athlete from possibly taking tests on the accounts of a phobia of needles or someone getting their feelings hurt. As with everything monumental that has changed in society, someone or a group of people decided that the status quo just isn't good enough anymore and we need to do better. The NSAC is the status quo and from all accounts, the boxing world needs to do better. We are here because we are supposed to be fans of the sport so we should all want everyone to be at their best, their natural best and when I see people come across and agrue against that, it bothers the hell out of me. I can't take anyone's argument seriously when they are armchair posting and arguing against science. Reputable people have come out and said the NSAC is a joke. Is Boxing going to do what Baseball did and just look the other way while it enjoys some sort of renaissance? Continuing to use the NSAC seems to be continuing a mockery of the ethics involved with the sweet science. All parties involved need to do better.

I couldn't agree more.

Seems like certain people wish the CEO of the USADA were telling a lie and only siding with Mayweather and not Manny.

No matter how they try and twist it, the fact remains and that's that the NSAC needs to step up their game.

[FLYBOY]

What people are forgetting is that FLOYD WILL ALSO BE DOING THE SAME TESTS AS PACQUIAO.

Pacquiao is a CHEATER.

[Siggy]

1. If you're given notice, is the test random?

2. 24-48hrs is sufficient time to clear it out of your system.

yes. randomly selected and unscheduled.
how do you figure they do out of competition, "unannounced" testing?
do fighters have to check in with USADA or other testing agency every time they go somewhere? ankle monitors with GPS? there is advanced notice even for so-called "unannounced" random tests....and according to you any advanced notice is enough time to clear out your system.

if you are on a PED REGIMENT it does not just leave your system naturally in that amount of time. you have to use diuretics or masking agents to facilitate the process.