[MUST READ] New Interview:Chief Executive of USADA, Explains Roids and Testing

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  • MindBat
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    #141
    Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
    The urine test is very easy and quick to mask, which considering it's importance, needs to be frequent and random. Pac agreed to this.

    The blood test, according to the interview, is not as easy to mask. It takes time. This is a good reason why a fighter needs to take blood test as well, yes, but it is also a reason why a cutoff point does not compromise the testing significantly.

    "...I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."


    I don't know why I am the only one in the thread to mention that quote.
    That's because you're taking Tygert's quote out of context.

    He was asking which testing protocol would have been implemented before the 14 day or 24 day cut-off period -- the NSAC's or CSAC's?

    He stated if that was the case (either agency's protocol being used), then he's not so much concerned about those cut-off periods as he is about the two months prior to that.

    That's what I read into it, unless you need him to further clarify what he said.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #142
      Originally posted by Siggy
      yes. randomly selected and unscheduled.
      how do you figure they do out of competition, "unannounced" testing?
      do fighters have to check in with USADA or other testing agency every time they go somewhere? ankle monitors with GPS? there is advanced notice even for so-called "unannounced" random tests....and according to you any advanced notice is enough time to clear out your system.

      if you are on a PED REGIMENT it does not just leave your system naturally in that amount of time. you have to use diuretics or masking agents to facilitate the process.

      First of all, all tests done by the NSAC for boxing are scheduled--unless you think being told that you will be tested in two days is "random.". Secondly, boxing does not have "unanounced tests." Finally, there are many PEDs that can be flushed out with even hours notice. Did you even read the article I sent you? How about the interview the TS was so nice as to provide? Apparently not or you wouldn't go on with your misguided theories.

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      • rao007
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        #143
        Interesting read indeed.

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        • Joeyzagz
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          #144
          Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
          and yet noone has yet to even make an attempt to petition or request any sort of upgrade to the nsac. Why??? If it's such a joke that there's an overwhelming amount of evidence to support it....why hasnt anyone made any sort of petition, letter, or even a verbal request whatsoever for the commission to change it's testing procedures.
          Where are you even going with this angle?

          Everyone on this planet, not just fighters, is responsible for their own well-being. Its not Mayweathers job to be the guardian angel of boxing and clean up the sport for all the dumb boxers out there, people need to take responsibility for themselves.

          If Migel Cotto wants to blindly enter the ring against roided up monsters and guys with bricks on their hands, thats his problem. Mayweather is not relying on an incompetent commission for his health and safety. He is going to have Olympic style testing for every fight from here on out just like Arthur Abraham. I applaud them both.

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          • rao007
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            #145
            It's funny that most of the things USADA seems to be after is EPO and not steroids.

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            • MindBat
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              #146
              Originally posted by Soir
              Where are you even going with this angle?

              Everyone on this planet, not just fighters, is responsible for their own well-being. Its not Mayweathers job to be the guardian angel of boxing and clean up the sport for all the dumb boxers out there, people need to take responsibility for themselves.

              If Migel Cotto wants to blindly enter the ring against roided up monsters and guys with bricks on their hands, thats his problem. Mayweather is not relying on an incompetent commission for his health and safety. He is going to have Olympic style testing for every fight from here on out just like Arthur Abraham. I applaud them both.
              Precisely. I've asked before: If not now, then when would be the best time to start? If not Floyd, then whom should make everyone aware of it?

              But, now what if Manny was the one to bring up the random testing and Floyd refused?

              OMFG!!! All the threads on page 1 of BoxingScene would be about Floyd refusing the random tests that Manny requested.

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              • HighUnderground
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                #147
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Plenty of petitions have been made in the past. Thomas Hearns has, Rid**** Bowe has. Just shut up and go away.
                You are wasting your time bro, there are too many inept individuals on this forum.

                I don't know how anybody thinks they can reasonably spin this article into something positive for Manny. Too many delusional nuthuggers around here.

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                • The Great Shark
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                  #148
                  And there you have it. Could it be anymore clear? *******s please try to discredit this interview.

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                  • rao007
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                    #149
                    No-one is spinning this article into something positive for Pacquiao---I just find it interesting that haters want to use it to prove a point about Pacquiao roiding---which is hilarious if you a look at the interview.

                    and it's great testing is improving.

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                    • QB Bomber
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by MindBat
                      Precisely. I've asked before: If not now, then when would be the best time to start? If not Floyd, then whom should make everyone aware of it?

                      But, now what if Manny was the one to bring up the random testing and Floyd refused?

                      OMFG!!! All the threads on page 1 of BoxingScene would be about Floyd refusing the random tests that Manny requested.
                      No doubt about it, their hate for Mayweather is what's allowing Pacquiao to duck a steroid test...

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