[MUST READ] New Interview:Chief Executive of USADA, Explains Roids and Testing

[Lady Fan]

The person being interviewed said both urine and blood tests (done randomly) are necessary. Do you agree?

Testing is obviously necessary but the timing in which Mayweather and Associates want to dictate this procedure is not reasonable to Pacquiao. You and I both know that 'Lil Floyd don't need a 14-day cutoff and by making it difficult for Pacquiao to agree to it sends every boxing fan the clear message that Pretty Boy is really afraid of Pacquiao and has successfully backed out of this fight. JAT

[IMDAZED]

mosley used EPO, its just that the urine test had not been developed AND universally applied by the time of the DLH/Mosley II fight.
the test was developed in 2003 and took a while to be universally applied.
but today, if WADA tests for it, NSAC tests for it since they use the same list of prohibited substances.

What is your point? The point is that the interviewee says his tests would've busted Shane for EPO.

[Siggy]

A random blood test is required cause if a fighter knows when the test is coming he can use a masking agent.Even the 14 day cutoff Floyd cut off is potentially not good for catching a roid cheat like Pacquiao If Pacquiao have knowledge on how to mask it for the 14 day cutoff.


There should have never been no compromise by Floyd.

the wada list of prohibited substances includes masking agents. nsac tests for the same masking agents.

[MindBat]

Re-read the article and my post (i saved before i was finished). He was claiming that the NSAC doesn't test for Epo and designer steroids then went on to say they would have cought Mosley. Mosley has admitted to using the cream and the clear, not EPO.

There was not an effective test for the clear until after the time period Mosley was using it (as far as we know) so even if the USADA was testing him during that time, they wouldn't have caught it because THERE WAS NO TEST AT THAT TIME. If he were to use it today, he'd be caught because there is a urine test in use by the USADA and NSAC.

Wow, people like you must get duped into buying extended warranties all the time.

Why would the CEO of the USADA go on record stating that they would have caught Molsey if it were NOT true?

Are we to believe you or the CEO of the USADA?

Do you have a source or link to your claims?

[Piper the Great]

sounds like we need olympic style testing

[Siggy]

What is your point? The point is that the interviewee says his tests would've busted Shane for EPO.

im just explaining why shane's abuse of EPO slipped through the cracks. it wasnt becuz the testing was completely inadequate. testing for EPO abuse was fairly new back then, but it isnt now.

[madsweeney]

I think you should read the article again. He's saying that HIS tests would've busted Mosley for EPO - not the cream and clear. BTW, Conte said he gave Mosley EPO as well.


Now read what I wrote above.


Damn, doesn't sound as good as when you first wrote it now, huh?

Let me correct that premise for you. The current state of drug testing done by these state commissions is a joke. They don't test for EPO. They don't test for designer steroids. They test for a basic, simple menu that anybody with a heartbeat will escape. I just hate to hear that Shane Mosley did something really sophisticated to get around their testing. No, he didn't

His mentioning to EPO is in relation to him saying that the state commissions don't test for it or designer steroids.

I only read the article to what Mosley admitted to but still, it's hearsay that he's taken it (even tho its very likely he did). With that said, WADA style testing for EPO has been in question for a while now, I've followed the Tour de France since the 80's and they discuss this issue alot more http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0626100921.htm

End of the day your taking the word of an ex-lawyer who sits on a board of directors' words as gospel. He, like any promoter, is pushing his services as the end all be all when even as good as WADA style testing is, its far from perfect.

[MindBat]

mosley used EPO, its just that the urine test had not been developed AND universally applied by the time of the DLH/Mosley II fight.
the test was developed in 2003 and took a while to be universally applied.
but today, if WADA tests for it, NSAC tests for it since they use the same list of prohibited substances.

Since 2002, EPO tests done by U.S. sports authorities have consisted of only a urine or “direct” test. From 2000–2006, EPO tests at the Olympics were conducted on both blood and urine.^[18][20][21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietin

[Imhotep]

the wada list of prohibited substances includes masking agents. nsac tests for the same masking agents.

But their test is not done at random and they only take urine test.

[RockStar45]

What people here don't realize is these tests are just a smokescreen. An experienced doper can beat any test. No athlete has ever been caught using HGH, even with blood testing. No athlete in the previous Olympics tested positive for HGH. Does that mean everyone who competed in the Olympics was clean? If you think that, I'd like to offer you this bridge I own.

Not saying that Pacquiao is guilty, but if he wanted to beat the test, he could beat the test no matter what the cutoff date. Even if he had to draw blood walking to the ring he could beat it. To me, refusing to take the blood test 14 days before the fight just means Pacquiao has idiots advising him.

And BTW, just because Mayweather is requesting these tests doesn't necessarily mean he's always been clean too. The guy was off for 18 months, came back bigger and suddenly he started shaving his head. As anyone knows, balding is a side effect of steroid use.

Not saying Mayweather was definitely doping, just like I'm not saying Pacquiao is definitely doping. But anyone who thinks Pacquiao is the only elite boxer who should be suspected of steroid use in his career is completely naive about PED use in boxing.

This entire issue is a joke and everyone here has been fighting for over a month about it. Once everyone stops acting like babies and accepts that their favorite athletes could be on the juice, we can move on.