[MUST READ] New Interview:Chief Executive of USADA, Explains Roids and Testing

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  • Lady Fan
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    #61
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Selective reading? You're talking about yourself, right?
    Can you disprove what I posted? If not, Shut It!

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    • IMDAZED
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      #62
      Originally posted by Foodie Too
      Can you disprove what I posted? If not, Shut It!
      So you've got to start with an effective urine program and an effective blood program. And the reason, to answer your specific question, that you need to do blood is because there are certain, and several, potent performance-enhancers that are not detected in the urine.

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        #63
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        She wasn't on EPO and that's what he specifically referred to.
        She admitted to using "the clear" (Tetrahydrogestrinone) which is an anabolic steroid. A test for that wasn't developed until '02 and even then it wasn't approved for use. FYI, the test for that particular drug is performed through a urinalysis, not blood test.

        http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3041449
        "Sugar" Shane Mosley says he is a "health-freak-type of guy" who had no idea that what he took for a few weeks in the fall of 2003 were the BALCO designer steroids "the clear" and "the cream,"
        Last edited by madsweeney; 01-22-2010, 10:44 AM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          She admitted to using "the clear" (Tetrahydrogestrinone) which is an anabolic steroid. A test for that wasn't developed until '02 and even then it wasn't approved for use.
          Right. And he specifically said they would've busted Mosley for EPO. He also specifically said that they didn't have tests (at that point) for certain roids he was taking.

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          • Lady Fan
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            #65
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            So you've got to start with an effective urine program and an effective blood program. And the reason, to answer your specific question, that you need to do blood is because there are certain, and several, potent performance-enhancers that are not detected in the urine.
            Are you an expert on Steroids? Please list these "Potent performance-enhancers."

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              #66
              Originally posted by Foodie Too
              Are you an expert on Steroids? Please list these "Potent performance-enhancers."

              I'm not but what I wrote was actually copied from the interview

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                #67
                Originally posted by Foodie Too

                Once again, read carefully:


                Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?

                A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin.

                You are selective reading. This case is closed as far as everyone is concerned. Only Pacquiao detractors will beat this thing to death in a desperate attempt to prove what? That they were wrong all along. JAT
                tis a great post

                and did the drug expert say 24 days was good?(too lazy to read it, saw in someones post)
                and if he did, didn't pacquiao say 24 days was good?

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                • MindBat
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by DE100
                  Mosley, and the tons of athletes that have never failed a test but later have been forced to admit that they did, would like to talk to you.

                  Look past Mayweather and Pac, no boxing/sports fan in their right mind would be against boxing and all sports getting better test.
                  Originally posted by badboypeenoy
                  He sounds like a salesman trying to sell an expensive lawnmower
                  claiming that your old lawnmower isn't good enough to cut new species
                  of grass.
                  Dr. Margaret Goodman, the former chair of the Medical Advisory Board of the Nevada State Athletic Commission feels otherwise.

                  She basically states that the NSAC needs to get with the program and update its testing protocols.

                  There are threads and links to her statements about this issue here on BoxingScene.

                  Originally posted by maddox22
                  Reading this article, I say let's just abolish boxing!
                  Easier said than done. The point is why not have a fair and even playing field for all boxers? It's only a matter of time. So if not now, when?

                  Originally posted by Foodie Too

                  Once again, read carefully:


                  Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?

                  A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin.

                  You are selective reading. This case is closed as far as everyone is concerned. Only Pacquiao detractors will beat this thing to death in a desperate attempt to prove what? That they were wrong all along. JAT
                  That just goes to prove that both blood AND urine testing are required to more effectively catch whatever drugs may be in an athletes system.

                  How do you know what drugs may or may not be in an athlete's system?

                  Drum roll please: By testing for them.

                  But that's not even the main issue.

                  The main issue is that Manny, by way of his team, want to have advance notice of when the tests will be performed and when they will end.

                  That's a big no-no in RANDOM drug tests. But Arum and comapny knew that already

                  Let's not get it twisted.

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                  • MindBat
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix
                    tis a great post

                    and did the drug expert say 24 days was good?(too lazy to read it, saw in someones post)
                    and if he did, didn't pacquiao say 24 days was good?
                    No. Reading the article is better than going by rumors and hearsay.

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                      #70
                      Pac should take the test if he's really clean.

                      Witch-hunts is what we need in boxing.

                      Floyd is da man and nobody else comes close.

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