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  • Silencers
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    #21
    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
    So mandatories is ok if its a fighter people like, but not if it isnt?
    That's not what I meant, what I'm saying basically is that mandatory rankings should be better. Salita never should have been the WBA's number 1 contender and the fight with Khan proved that, it was another mis-mandatory. Sometimes the sanctioning organizations get it right, but it doesn't happen very often, Maidana is a good mandatory challenger but he never should have been given the WBA interim title or whatever he holds and Khan shouldn't be forced to fight 2 mandatories in a row just because the sanctioning body wants him to.
    Last edited by Silencers; 01-19-2010, 11:52 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Silencers
      That's not what I meant, what I'm saying basically is that mandatory rankings should be better. Salita never should have been the WBA's number 1 contender and the fight with Khan proved that, it was another mid-mandatory. Sometimes the sanctioning organizations get it right, but it doesn't happen very often, Maidana is a good mandatory challenger but he never should have been given the WBA interim title or whatever he holds and Khan shouldn't be forced to fight 2 mandatories in a row just because the sanctioning body wants him to.
      In my experiance, the WBA sucks and they make up their own rules to suit them.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
        In my experiance, the WBA sucks and they make up their own rules to suit them.
        Yes, they do. So do almost every other sanctioning organization.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Silencers
          Yes, they do. So do almost every other sanctioning organization.
          yeah, WBA is the worst though, also I think John Ruiz dad works for the WBA.

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          • joe strong
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            #25
            it should be chagaev vs peter or chagaev vs boytsov or peter vs boytsov...peter gets a mulligan from me being a former world champ who fought both klitschkos & chambers(he gave himself no chance weighing 270)& beat toney twice(not easy to do & I think toney won the first fight).I give chagaev a little credit beating valuev & ruiz but injuries & motivation have been problems for him the last few years...there are good fights on the rise in the division...we must remain patient because of will sort itself out.

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              #26
              Originally posted by joe strong
              it should be chagaev vs peter or chagaev vs boytsov or peter vs boytsov...peter gets a mulligan from me being a former world champ who fought both klitschkos & chambers(he gave himself no chance weighing 270)& beat toney twice(not easy to do & I think toney won the first fight).I give chagaev a little credit beating valuev & ruiz but injuries & motivation have been problems for him the last few years...there are good fights on the rise in the division...we must remain patient because of will sort itself out.
              Peter is fighting Nagy (guy who just beat Maskaev) for IBF eliminator. Nagy getting this shot is b.s.

              In my opinion it's a easy set up for Peter since him and Meehan (also in an eliminator suprise suprise) are th only viable Don King heavies. Without them King has nothign in the HW division, it's a last ditch effort.

              Aside from whatever affiliation he has with Haye (for 3 fights i believe)

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                #27
                the way politics are these days,I believe you must make a name for yourself before contending...anyone who says ruiz isn't deserving of at least a top ranking or at least an eliminator fight is narrow minded....ruiz has fought in 11 title fights & deserves respect like him or hate him.ruiz may be boring but he NEVER ducked anyone.Tyson & lewis' both turned down fights with him.some say for money & some say the risk factor...let's face it people the only reason vitali got a title fight after the lennox fight was because lennox vacated his title instead of fighting ruiz...he retired instead of fighting Byrd or ruiz.lennox never ducked them but chose to retire because neither fight was lucrative.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
                  Peter is fighting Nagy (guy who just beat Maskaev) for IBF eliminator. Nagy getting this shot is b.s.

                  In my opinion it's a easy set up for Peter since him and Meehan (also in an eliminator suprise suprise) are th only viable Don King heavies. Without them King has nothign in the HW division, it's a last ditch effort.

                  Aside from whatever affiliation he has with Haye (for 3 fights i believe)
                  Peter is with main event & don king has nothing to do with peter.king has control over the WBA rankings & that's it.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    That's not what I meant, what I'm saying basically is that mandatory rankings should be better. Salita never should have been the WBA's number 1 contender and the fight with Khan proved that, it was another mis-mandatory. Sometimes the sanctioning organizations get it right, but it doesn't happen very often, Maidana is a good mandatory challenger but he never should have been given the WBA interim title or whatever he holds and Khan shouldn't be forced to fight 2 mandatories in a row just because the sanctioning body wants him to.
                    Maidana wasn't given the WBA belt, he beat Ortiz for it.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Marijuana
                      Maidana wasn't given the WBA belt, he beat Ortiz for it.
                      What I meant was he never should have been in the position to win that belt in the first place, it wasn't like Kotelnik had a long layoff or anything.

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