Yes. Will both these fights ever happen? Probably not.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostHow you beat people counts as well. IMO the way he beat DLH isnt satisfactory enough. People beat DLH better when DLH was in his prime than PBF did. THere has to be an explanation for that and the explanation is because PBF isnt that good when he faced top opposition.
Yes he beat Hatton, and well done for that. But Collazo nearly beat him as well, as did a few others at 147. Pac showed how its supposed to be done. PBF will always lose brownie points for the manner of his wins.
If he beats Pac it will be far his best win. SSM he should have fought years ago. So he will need a few more over light middlewieight Paul WIlliams to show David really did Goliath.
No one is fooled by his win over DLH as a david and goliath moment in boxing.
Even Duran beat Barkley.
Also, Hatton only fought Collazo at WW so know what you are talking about and Collazo aint no *****. He's a very good fighter so dont act like beating him is an easy win. Pac didnt show how nothing is supposed to be done. Floyd had already stopped him and Lazcano came close to doing it so dont act like they fought the same Hatton because they didnt, just like they didnt fight the same OscarLast edited by DLT; 01-19-2010, 12:50 PM.
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Originally posted by DLT View PostThats the dumbest thing ever. The explination is that Oscar recently fought at MW and was a big Jr. MW who had just decpitated Mayorga in 5 while Floyd only had a couple of fights at WW and was entering the ring at 146. No one even felt Floyd was a real WW and he had to go to 154 to fight Oscar who had 20 pounds on him in the ring. Floyd was worried about how he could handle himself at 154 and everyone put it in his head that Oscar could stop him if he caught him with the hook so he was extremely cautious. If he had those extra 7 pounds on him that he has now then it wouldve been a different fight. No one else fought Oscar like he did. Oscar never had that big of a size advantage in an elite match
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Floyd would be OFFICIAL if he won those 2 fights......but he'll get beat by Shane then Manny will get the same......I wonder where you guys will put Shane IF he knocks out Floyd and Manny in the SAME year?!?.....just asking!!
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostWas the size really an advantage or was it good for PBF that DLH was slowed down considerably for the size. DLH started at the lower weights so get the size thing out of your head. He was past his prime. Dont you understand that? Stop talking size.
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Originally posted by DLT View Postso what. Past your prime doesnt mean that your garbage. He was still a very good fighter. and how was Oscar slowed down? He started at the lower weights but he was always a big guy. He's nearly 6ft. He was a very natural Jr MW. Its not like he had just moved up. He's been that big for years. Also, Hatton only fought Collazo at WW so know what you are talking about and Collazo aint no *****. He's a very good fighter so dont act like beating him is an easy win. Pac didnt show how nothing is supposed to be done. Floyd had already stopped him and Lazcano came close to doing it so dont act like they fought the same Hatton because they didnt, just like they didnt fight the same Oscar
Pac gets extra brownie points however you look at it.
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