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  • deuce_drop
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    #31
    Originally posted by YoungReezy
    Alot of idiots in here got **** all twisted! This is for you "so callled" Boxingscene experts:

    Xylocaine is used by numerous boxers if they have a history of broken hands. It numbs your hands so you won't feel the pain, the down side of it is that your hand may be broken during a fight and you may not even realize it because you can't feel ****.

    After Ortiz was stopped by Maidana he was wearing a cast because he broke his hand and didnt even know it because he had injected this ****. Juan Diaz, DLH, Trinidad, Cotto,Floyd, Jones, MAlignaggi, and even Steve Forbes are a few boxers I know that have done it.

    And none have ever failed a drug test because it ain't a steroid. It's a pain killer.
    it's a contradiction to what floyd is accusing pacquiao of, because floyd is using a substance which aids him to compete. floyd wouldn't be able to get through a fight without it, it's not something that is natural and it's banned in the majority states in combat sports.

    since it is a foreign substance and not naturally produced by the body, and is injected into the area for it's numbing capabilities, which allows floyd and others who use it to not feel pain, makes it a performance enhancing drug, because it's enhancing their pain threshold or removing it where broken hands, sore hands, and sprains are a part of the sport, boxing is the pain game, and using xylocaine is a way to get around the pain, which is a form of cheating if you really want to break it down.
    something that can end the fight, a broken hand, is now avoided because the guy can't feel it, which wouldn't be the case if he wasn't taking a drug, and yes it is a drug. that is cheating, it would be like comparing a corked bat to someone who is juicing. it's now ok to have this corked bat but you can't take anything to will produce the same out come, just in another form.
    i'm in no way shape or form am saying it's ok to take roids or anything, but it's not a level playing field for the guy who is going up against a guy who is numbed up and can't feel anything.
    if a fighter has to stop fighting because he broke his hand, and that would be his choice, but if he hurt his hand and stopped that would be a fair fight, but if he's doped up and can't feel a thing, then he's had outside help, which it isnt him, it's the dope that has gotten him through the fight, and is that really fair to the guy who hasn't used anything? i say no, because it wasn't the fighter all by himself that got through the fight, it was him with the help of a drug...............
    i'm not saying that it's ok for someone to do roids because someone else is taking a drug that allows them to get through the pain, but what i'm saying it's really not that fair.
    if there are methods of using drugs to help a fighter get through the fight, then where is the line drawn for other fighters to use other drugs that would aid them in getting through the fight? i say if you allow one, you have to allow them all.......... it's not all that fair saying it's ok to use this and not that.

    with this hand numbing ****, would anyone be upset of they were shooting it all up in their face and body? so they wouldnt feel the punch from their opponent?

    and what about if someone using it killed another fighter in the ring? would it raise a question of how fair it is? i bet it would.

    or what about a fighter like floyd who uses it, does damage to their hand, doesn't know about it keeps fighting, and permanently injured their hand and forced to retire? now, how fair is it to the fighter who career is ruined because he thought that he was helping himself to win using a drug. not fair really but it was his or hers choice, but the point im making is, if it was illegal all around it wouldnt happen. this last point i am making is to show a different point of view on the situation.

    bottom line, it is a PED if it is helping you do something that you can't normally do on your own, and masking the pain is something you can do, but it's a choice when it happens, not a set up to not happen through the aid of dope. it's a derivative of *******, it's dope, no ifs, ands, or buts........


    all the while there is no proof of pacquiao taking any PEDs, roids, or hgh.
    Last edited by deuce_drop; 01-18-2010, 01:17 AM.

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      #32
      also after thinking about it for a second, what would be the consensus to a fight where floyd and who ever he is fighting both broke their hands in their fight. only thing is, floyds opponent has to quit because his hand is hurt, floyd can fight on because he's taken a drug but his competitor has to quit because of the pain of having a broken hand? so is it a fair fight where one guy took a drug that allowed him to feel no pain and the other guy didn't? even if it were legal? legal or not, it's not a level playing field.

      floyd is eliminating one way of losing through dope, legal or not, it's not a level playing field..... don't care how you slice it.

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      • pasawayako
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        #33
        this is the main reason why floyd just smile everytime marquez hit him with a solid shots, floyd injected himself with a xylocaine to make himself numb to the pain.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Viva_La_Raza
          Fighters don't gain an advantage by taking the pain killer. The pain killer is a disadvantage in the ring if you cannot feel any pain. Floyd can do some serious damage to his hands without knowing he's doing damage because he cannot feel anything.

          The pain killer does not make you faster, stronger, give you more stamina later in the fight, etc.
          but it gives u more resistance to the pain.

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          • pasawayako
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            #35
            Originally posted by Viva_La_Raza
            Fighters don't gain an advantage by taking the pain killer. The pain killer is a disadvantage in the ring if you cannot feel any pain. Floyd can do some serious damage to his hands without knowing he's doing damage because he cannot feel anything.

            The pain killer does not make you faster, stronger, give you more stamina later in the fight, etc.
            but it gives u more resistance to the pain and why they will use it if they will give them a disadvantage rather an advantage in the ring?

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            • DE100
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              #36
              at people thinking Floyd uses this during the fight, that is illegal. I see both side thinking this. He does not use this during a fight.

              Also it is Banned.

              De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.




              Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

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              Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

              http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

              And this is from 1989

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              • Xplosivo
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                #37
                Originally posted by DE100
                at people thinking Floyd uses this during the fight, that is illegal. I see both side thinking this. He does not use this during a fight.

                Also it is Banned.

                De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.




                Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

                The latest breaking UK, US, world, business and sport news from The Times and The Sunday Times. Go beyond today's headlines with in-depth analysis and comment.




                Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

                http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

                And this is from 1989

                a ******* thought that you were going against my arguement in the other thread i made.

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                • EMIL2010
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                  #38
                  and you wont feel the pain when you got hit by bomb and thats why XYLOCAINE MAN was never knocked out

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                  • Siggy
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by EMIL2010
                    and you wont feel the pain when you got hit by bomb and thats why XYLOCAINE MAN was never knocked out
                    unless its a body shot, being KO'ed has nothing to do with pain.
                    however, i'd like to know how people respond to this:
                    Originally posted by Me
                    id imagine that injecting your hands with xylocaine during training would have its benefits. you could endure longer training sessions even though your hands are hurt. you could hit the heavy bag a little harder. there also could be residual numbness in your hands even if you stop a week before a fight depending on how much is used and frequency of use.
                    also, another ingredient in xylocaine is adrenaline (epinephrine), which would also aid a fighter during training because it boosts oxygen to the brain and muscles.

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                    • Bad Boy Dazza
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                      #40
                      Garbage. If you can hit and hit without pain, that constitutes a distinct advantage.

                      Originally posted by Viva_La_Raza
                      Fighters don't gain an advantage by taking the pain killer. The pain killer is a disadvantage in the ring if you cannot feel any pain. Floyd can do some serious damage to his hands without knowing he's doing damage because he cannot feel anything.

                      The pain killer does not make you faster, stronger, give you more stamina later in the fight, etc.

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