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  • American Dream
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    #131
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    And, is not only him though is so many others, like Icheezy, Allucard, Haterfree, and plenty more.... Who I have had convo with and there lack of boxing knowledge baffles me... But, yet Floyd fans keep talking **** about Pac fans not knowing... they can GTFOH with that bull****...
    that can be easliy shut down..just have all your Pac buddies call in to one of the shows..make sure you give them a good lesson before hand..90% of the Pac Stans on this forum dont know boxing..im not saying just because you are a Pac fan you know nothing..Im talking about the STANS who post BS all day..make BS threads and dont speak of anything other than Pac and his opponents..anyone including yourself can google info when asked on the forums..so convince them to call in..and that will expose them immediately..

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      #132
      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
      pac has a superior resume.

      when all is said and done , even if floyd beats pacquiao , manny will still be ranked higher than mayweather all time.

      deal with it.
      because he fought morales 3 times and barrera twice?...that makes his resume better than Mayweathers????


      LMAO@[I]"even if floyd beats pacquiao , manny will still be ranked higher than mayweather all time." [/I
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        #133
        Originally posted by mali1976
        that can be easliy shut down..just have all your Pac buddies call in to one of the shows..make sure you give them a good lesson before hand..90% of the Pac Stans on this forum dont know boxing..im not saying just because you are a Pac fan you know nothing..Im talking about the STANS who post BS all day..make BS threads and dont speak of anything other than Pac and his opponents..anyone including yourself can google info when asked on the forums..so convince them to call in..and that will expose them immediately..
        I have called, Mak has called...

        I can easily say 90% of Floyd fans know **** either... Look at MIC post history? Icheezy history? Allucard history? Haterfree history? I can keep naming all they post is just how great Floyd is, the double standard there is against Floyd which is bull****, and how Pac is on roids and overrated he is cuz he is a good guy... That is what 90% of the Floyd fans talk about.... Don't just single Pac fans out...

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        • M.I.C.
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          #134
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          I am not going to read 13 ****ing pages of this bull**** hurry up and make a point so I can shut it down and we can move on to a different boxing convo.. That it has no Floyd or Pac...

          Like Mike Jones, Antwone Smith... Like how would a potential fight go...

          What does Amir Khan signing to Golden boy mean?

          What about the potential fight with Sergio Martinez-Kelly Pavlik how would that play out?

          What is next for Paul Williams?

          What makes Harry Greb a better MW all time than Ray Robinson...

          Who was a better lightweight at 135 Whitaker or Duran.

          Super six all time 140, Tszyu, Locche, Chavez, Pryor, Cervantes, Whitaker. Who wins the whole thing and why?

          Why is the bantamweight division so underrated when they have the deepest most skilled talent then any other division?

          Who is a bigger a thread to Calderon- Viloria, Gonzalez, Segura, Solis, Sosa, Ioka, Oleydong, Garchia, Mayol, or Joyi? and why?

          See I can talk boxing... believe it or not there is more boxing then just Floyd and Pac... So go ahead and make your ****** ass point. So I can shut it down. And, we can discuss boxing.... And, then we can see if you really know your ****...
          Like Mike Jones, Antwone Smith... Like how would a potential fight go... These two gentlemen are only known to those who literally looked them up on youtube and boxrec.com which I dont feel like doing

          What does Amir Khan signing to Golden boy mean? More opportunities and more exposure, and possibly more money

          What about the potential fight with Sergio Martinez-Kelly Pavlik how would that play out? Pick em fight, I would go with Martinez, Pavlik cant handle a mover as well as a come forward aggressor.

          What is next for Paul Williams? Paul Williams will educate himself that he is not a welterweight and will stop flirting with the 147 lb division, he will accept the fact he is a big man, that truly cant compete with bigger men.

          What makes Harry Greb a better MW all time than Ray Robinson... He's Not, a question like this is based on opinion not fact, whoever you like, for one more people have likely seen footage of Robinson not Greb so that can't make a fair comparison

          Who was a better lightweight at 135 Whitaker or Duran. [B]Duran by accomplishments, Whitaker by skills Two different styles of fighters a good question is do you think Whitaker can beat anyone on Duran's resume and vice versa

          Super six all time 140, Tszyu, Locche, Chavez, Pryor, Cervantes, Whitaker. Who wins the whole thing and why? Pryor or Whitaker....with most likely picking Pryor

          Why is the bantamweight division so underrated when they have the deepest most skilled talent then any other division? History is against the division, big money is at the higher weight classes, simple answer popularity if you will.

          Who is a bigger a thread to Calderon- Viloria, Gonzalez, Segura, Solis, Sosa, Ioka, Oleydong, Garchia, Mayol, or Joyi? and why? Hard to say when so many of them share a similar fighting style. Also lighter weight classes are harder to predict. One of the other reasons these weight classes are not as popular
          Last edited by M.I.C.; 01-17-2010, 05:26 PM.

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            #135
            Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
            because he fought morales 3 times and barrera twice?...that makes his resume better than Mayweathers????


            LMAO@[I]"even if floyd beats pacquiao , manny will still be ranked higher than mayweather all time." [/I
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            i think mayweather should fight morales and barrera at 146 to prove how easy they would be. too easy these people don't even know!

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              #136
              Originally posted by Xplosivo
              I agree 100%. Pac gets a pass because he is a nice guy, people dont like floyd because of his mouth and fighting style.
              His "fighting style" is what boxing is all about. But I don't think we can demand or even expect that these keyboard warriors would appreciate it or understand it. Try and move inside the square with a moving and hitting target and you'll know what it's all about.

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              • American Dream
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                #137
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                I have called, Mak has called...

                I can easily say 90% of Floyd fans know **** either... Look at MIC post history? Icheezy history? Allucard history? Haterfree history? I can keep naming all they post is just how great Floyd is, the double standard there is against Floyd which is bull****, and how Pac is on roids and overrated he is cuz he is a good guy... That is what 90% of the Floyd fans talk about.... Don't just single Pac fans out...
                did you not read what I said..I said get your buddies to call...I have heard you call..and you name one person out of all the STANS that post BS here!

                for every Roid post..theres 10 xylocaine..ducker..fraud posts..the roid post has some standing seeing as it was a huge deal, made even bigger by the media..most Floyd fans know boxing outside of Floyd..while the Pac STANS only jumped on board since Pac..and they youtube the past fights to get some history..
                Its not about them thinking Pac is "the greatest"..but they dont know boxing period..thats where the promblem is..make a thousand post of how you feel Floyd is a ducker and fraud..and Pacquiao is overrated and a catch weight King..but at the end of the day have some knowledge behind what you say.
                but lets put it like this..and dont try to act like you dont know..
                ask every Pac STAN who they think is the GOAT or favorite fighter ever..and ask every Floyd fan (or ***** as you guys put it) who they think is the GOAT..I guarantee you the Pac Stan will say Pacquiao...and the ***** WILL NOT say Floyd..I can find you posts on that..can you find me posts with *****s saying that?
                Last edited by American Dream; 01-17-2010, 05:33 PM.

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                • jrosales13
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  Like Mike Jones, Antwone Smith... Like how would a potential fight go... These two gentlemen are only known to those who literally looked them up on youtube and boxrec.com which I dont feel like doing
                  Actually Mike Jones has had fights on TV like Solo boxeo, and you can also look him up in youtube... I mean a true hardcore boxing fan would try to try to catch as much boxing as you can... Antwone Smith has fought on ESPN (Gutirrez) and Showbox(Crawford)... So you don't have to go to boxrec to know about this guys. You just need to watch fights...

                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  What does Amir Khan signing to Golden boy mean? [B]More opportunities and more exposure, and possibly more money[/B
                  ]

                  How would Golden boy change there tactic for Amir Khan career... So far they have done a horrible job handling there fighters.

                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  What about the potential fight with Sergio Martinez-Kelly Pavlik how would that play out? Pick em fight, I would go with Martinez, Pavlik cant handle a mover as well as a come forward aggressor.
                  If Sergio can stay off the ropes and keep in the middle in the ring. While keeping Pavlik turning and not let him get his feet set. And, Martinez keep giving him angles. Martinez will have an easy very easy time against Pavlik.

                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  What is next for Paul Williams? Paul Williams will educate himself that he is not a welterweight and will stop flirting with the 147 lb division, he will accept the fact he is a big man, that truly cant compete with bigger men.
                  Paul Williams should fight at a weight-class he feels comfortably in. If that is 147 then so be it. There should be no excuse for fighters not to fight this guy. And, you should not give any fighter a pass for not fighting him. We have weight-classes not height-classes..

                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  What makes Harry Greb a better MW all time than Ray Robinson... He's Not, a question like this is based on opinion not fact, whoever you like, for one more people have likely seen footage of Robinson not Greb so that can't make a fair comparison
                  But, Harry Greb body of work arguably is better than Robinson at MW... Greb fought 300 times and only lost 20... Beat a whole bunch of HOF'ers... So a case can be made...

                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  Who was a better lightweight at 135 Whitaker or Duran.

                  Super six all time 140, Tszyu, Locche, Chavez, Pryor, Cervantes, Whitaker. Who wins the whole thing and why? Pryor or Whitaker....with most likely picking Pryor
                  What about Locche? How could Pryor handle his defense.... He never fought anybody with the defense like Locche or Whitaker before. Who would be the aggressor in a Whitaker-Locche fight? Maybe Whitaker?

                  Why is the bantamweight division so underrated when they have the deepest most skilled talent then any other division? History is against the division, big money is at the higher weight classes, popularity if you will.

                  Who is a bigger a thread to Calderon- Viloria, Gonzalez, Segura, Solis, Sosa, Ioka, Oleydong, Garchia, Mayol, or Joyi? and why? Hard to say when so many of them share a similar fighting style. Also lighter weight classes are harder to predict. One of the other reasons these weight classes are not as popular
                  You keep talking about not being popular? Is not popular with the casual fans but us boxing fans. Hardcore fans should be watching this guys. I mean we love boxing right? And, they do not share a similar fighting style they are different.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by mali1976
                    did you not read what I said..I said get your buddies to call...I have heard you call..and you name one person out of all the STANS that post BS here!

                    for every Roid post..theres 10 xylocaine..ducker..fraud posts..the roid post has some standing seeing as it was a huge deal, made even bigger by the media..most Floyd fans know boxing outside of Floyd..while the Pac STANS only jumped on board since Pac..and they youtube the past fights to get some history..
                    Its not about them thinking Pac is "the greatest"..but they dont know boxing period..thats where the promblem is..make a thousand post of how you feel Floyd is a ducker and fraud..and Pacquiao is overrated and a catch weight King..but at the end of the day have some knowledge behind what you say.
                    but lets put it like this..and dont try to act like you dont know..
                    ask every Pac STAN who they think is the GOAT or favorite fighter ever..and ask every Floyd fan (or ***** as you guys put it) who they think is the GOAT..I guarantee you the Pac Stan will say Pacquiao...and the ***** WILL NOT say Floyd..I can find you posts on that..can you find me posts with *****s saying that?
                    Go ahead and find me a post and I can find you posts where Mr President says Floyd is greater than Ali and Robinson... I can also find you posts from Icheezy says the same thing. I can find you posts from posters who agree with them..GOAT has a thread where he rank Floyd #7 all time and Tyson #10 all time. Floyd fans are not better. There are some Floyd fans who knows there **** just like there Pac fans who know there ****... But, 90% of Floyd fans don't know more... And, right now if you look at the main page you can find 5 Floyd fans posters who created a thread about Floyd or hating on Pac. Everything else right now is about different boxing related topics...

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                    • American Dream
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Actually Mike Jones has had fights on TV like Solo boxeo, and you can also look him up in youtube... I mean a true hardcore boxing fan would try to try to catch as much boxing as you can... Antwone Smith has fought on ESPN (Gutirrez) and Showbox(Crawford)... So you don't have to go to boxrec to know about this guys. You just need to watch fights...
                      not true whatsoever..I guarantee you right now I can give you a name of a fighter who has fought on ESPN2 and you wouldnt know him w/out having to look him up on boxrec..and if that (as you say)is a true boxing fan..again 98%of the Pac stans are not true boxing fans then..with that logic!
                      I have watched first hand fighter groomed as amateurs..i have watched them start at Casinos..then to ESPN..then to Shobox..and now considered for the S6..and Ive watched them lose on ESPN only to revert back to their day job!
                      ..I can name names you wont know..that doesnt mean you arent a true boxing fan...because I personally think you are..but your buddies would get exposed in a second.
                      Last edited by American Dream; 01-17-2010, 05:47 PM.

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