Is the "clottey isnt active enough" theory a little overexaggerated?

[Tmann400]

title says it all....although i agree he could of thrown more punches in the last two rounds against cotto, i think people need to look and see WHY he wasnt that active in the championship rounds. cotto was back peddling majorly, and clottey isnt somebody whos good at fighting coming forward, hes better at fighting when he is somewhat stationary, cotto wasnt giving him that option, because he was on the backfoot at high speed. i mean even pacquiao wih his blazing speed and odd angled punches was struggling trying to find a good range for his punches when cotto was running.

now on clottey's fight with margarito we saw what he did the first four rounds before he hurt his hand, and he was less active throughout the fight but still did win some of the later rounds (i had it 115-113 margarito). the reason why i bring this up is because ive noticed SEVERAL people on here picking pacquiao simply for his high activity and because clottey is "inactive". its not about how many you throw its about the quality and the more showing punches (which i feel clottey will land more than pacquiao). so to the people who feel pacquiao will win based off of workrate, i suggest you watch and study more of clottey's fights.

[Random1]

Personally I think his problem is that he's either "all defense" or "all offense" and he doesn't flow between the two very well. If Manny can keep him "all defense" with his workrate he probably won't throw very much.

Then again if he decides to let his chin be his defense and go to war we'd have quite the entertaining slugfest. Doesn't seem to be his temperment though.

[Tmann400]

Personally I think his problem is that he's either "all defense" or "all offense" and he doesn't flow between the two very well. If Manny can keep him "all defense" with his workrate he probably won't throw very much.

Then again if he decides to let his chin be his defense and go to war we'd have quite the entertaining slugfest. Doesn't seem to be his temperment though.

i doubt pacquiao would keep him completely defensive the whole fight, clottey is to fast and has decent counter punching skills so if pacquiao thinks hes just going to throw punches in bunches and it will be that simple he might get himself hurt. thats one thing many people have said on here, clottey's handspeed is highly underrated. he looked about two times faster than cotto in their fight. go and look at the 6th round of the cotto-clottey fight and you will see the difference in speed.

[Ray*]

No its not overexaggerated, Clottey is just not active enough to beat any top fighter.

[Syf]

even if Clottey wasn't under question about work rate, he would still be in the hole in that department against Pac.

That's one of Pac's strongest abilities, is to throw fast and strong, for 12 rounds without any sign of stopping.

That plus footwork, and sheer willpower puts this one away for Manny.

[Tmann400]

even if Clottey wasn't under question about work rate, he would still be in the hole in that department against Pac.

That's one of Pac's strongest abilities, is to throw fast and strong, for 12 rounds without any sign of stopping.

That plus footwork, and sheer willpower puts this one away for Manny.

although pacquiao has quick feet he is no mover. he has quicker feet than i would say "good" footwork. and like i said just now i dont see pacquiao simply winning the fight simply because he is fast and throws alot of punches..that sounds like a casual fans prediction, boxing just isnt that simple.

[Tmann400]

No its not overexaggerated, Clottey is just not active enough to beat any top fighter.

??..he beat cotto in my opinion...sorry running and throwing feints doesnt win you championshp rounds in my book.

[Tmann400]

also another thing alot of people havent said much about..this will be at the 147 limit..so clottey is going to be a full fledged healthy welterweight. and will likely be coming into the ring at around 160ish while pacquiao will likely be at 148 or 147 walking into the ring. the strength difference will play a big factor in this fight because clottey uses his size and strength in his fights.

[Syf]

although pacquiao has quick feet he is no mover. he has quicker feet than i would say "good" footwork. and like i said just now i dont see pacquiao simply winning the fight simply because he is fast and throws alot of punches..that sounds like a casual fans prediction, boxing just isnt that simple.

Boxing can be extremely simple sometimes. Take it from one that has done it. 4 kinds of punches, done in thousands of different ways. Over complicating things can often lead to paralysis of analysis...



But anyway, Pac's footwork is top flight, in its dynamic way. In and out, w/some lateral. Don't let how he couldn't track down a running Cotto fool you. It was clear his intent in that fight was going strength to strength, and he trained for little else. Clottey is a mixed bag. I would train Pac for a little of everything in this one, if I were Roach.

I have little doubt about Pacquiao in this one. an entertaining fight.. maybe even a grueling fight, but he's 80% favorite at least for me, whereas the Mayweather Pac matchup was closer to a pick 'em

[Ben_London]

I laugh when people say Clottey is slow, his hand speed is very fast.