Rewatched DLH/PBF last night...

[El_Cholo]

& If people truely think that's the same man that stepped in the ring against Pac, they must be crazy. I understand that the activity of Pac was tough for DLH to handle, and PBF didn't use the straight right as well and often as Pac, but DLH was unable to throw anything when he fought Pac, when he fought PBF he was just missing his jab.

De La Hoya has already admitted that he was carrying an injury in the Mayweather fight.

[AllEyesOpen]

De La Hoya has already admitted that he was carrying an injury in the Mayweather fight.

He must have been half-dead against Pac then.

[IMDAZED]

Of course it wasn't the same.

He didn't have a game plan from Roach against Pacquiao.

All he had was Nacho's "Imitate Marquez" game plan.

DLH can't imitate Marquez for ****. 2 different styles.

Well the difference is that Mayweather no longer had the legs he had at 130-135 and didn't throw as many combinations. So he couldn't implement Pac's gameplan, particularly when the fighter has carried his footspeed up seven divisions.

[Ray*]

So many factor on why De la hoya looked good in that fight, and one of them was Mayweather carried Oscar in the hope of getting a Rematch done.

[El_Cholo]

You couldn't see the difference in game plans?

Sure DLH wasn't as quick as he used to be but it's like night and day watching his game plan in the Floyd and Pac fights.

In the Floyd fight, Roach's gameplan was to have an aggressive DLH make it a rough fight and make Floyd break out of his shell. DLH did for the most part in the early rounds and started gassing out when he started wasting punches. Floyd easily took over after that.

In the Pac fight, Nacho's gameplan was to turn DLH into a Marquez and have DLH wait patiently for a Pacquiao mistake and counter him with a big left hook. You can tell that they were confident DLH could end it with one punch. It's too bad that DLH fights nothing like Marquez. Pac never gave DLH a chance to think and kept hammering him with left and rights

It's as clear as crystal if you watch for it man.

Oscar claims differently.

[DrewWoodside]

I actually did, like at 2am.

Were you buzzing from nose candy?

[Blue Heffner]

Making any kind of assessment about Mayweather based on that fight is weird to me. He fought like he was in a sparring session. He fought Oscar for a check. I hate that Floyd doesn't fight more aggressive but I've realized what his mentality is, so I don't expect much from him anymore. Just pot shot his way to a win.

De la Hoya was training to make weight against Manny, not training to win against Manny.

[El_Cholo]

He must have been half-dead against Pac then.

yes he also admits that he got the **** beaten out of him in sparring in the lead up to the fight and knew he was in the ****. He admits that he was very worried.

[-EX-]

Making any kind of assessment about Mayweather based on that fight is weird to me. He fought like he was in a sparring session. He fought Oscar for a check.

Couldn't have said it better...

You can't say it was the same Oscar...let alone it wasn't the same weightclass...

[AllEyesOpen]

Making any kind of assessment about Mayweather based on that fight is weird to me. He fought like he was in a sparring session. He fought Oscar for a check. I hate that Floyd doesn't fight more aggressive but I've realized what his mentality is, so I don't expect much from him anymore. Just pot shot his way to a win.

De la Hoya was training to make weight against Manny, not training to win against Manny.

Well Mayweather was waiting for DLH to gas out, and DLH was being aggressive but ineffective, Mayweather wasn't able to get into that grove he gets into that leaves his opponents hopeless until later in the fight(and you could tell by the 8-9th round DLH was Hopeless).

Were you buzzing from nose candy?

No, just couldn't sleep and I found that video(yes video, I'm poor and old fashioned, i rec it on tape). decided to watch it