Who's better: Cintron or Clottey? And who would win in a fight?

[Modobo3]

Clottey has fought at 154 before, he would be more healthy there. Martinez could still beat him, but it would be tough for both guys.



He was also a damn prospect, who was one dimensional as hell. The game plan to beat Angulo was set before it was even carried out. A decent win, but not quite as commendable.

Do yourself a favor and look at Clottey's 154 comp??? GARBAGE...Angulo would beat everybody that Clottey fought at 154 on the same night.

He's spent the best years of his career at 147, because at 154 he'd get killed!!! He drains himself down to make 147, almost to the point of medical attention then blows up so he has a size advantage over his competitors at fight time...If you notice, everytime he's faced a viable opponent at 147 he's tired out...In my book I thought he fought the fight of his life when he fought Margarito...but since then he really hasn't looked quite like the same fighter.

[R.M {7}]

Cintron is no where near Clottery. Cintron can't even carry his underwear. Josh will destroy this tool.

[Bushbaby]

All in all,Cintron is a very powerful puncher & Clottey is a very good defender,it really is a tossup,no matter how anyone tries to bend it!!Clottey isn't going to ko Cintron,he doesn't fight like Margarito,period!!So based on how they fight,either could win!!I'll put it so though,if Cintron hit Clottey the way Cotto did,he sleeps him!!

[Modobo3]

they couldn't compete with martinez? why the hell not? cause you say so? i doubt they get knocked out and start crying like cintron thats for sure win or lose. oh wait i forgot martinez is julian jackson he would murder both clottey and pac.

???Ummm...and I suppose they CAN because, YOU SAY SO??? trust me, I'm not trying to get in a pissing match with youbut, if you EVER want to know why I feel the way I do...I'd be more than happy to tell you, Just ask.

As YOU SAID "...and start crying like cintron thats for sure win or lose." I suppose you don't remember PAC CRYING after victories??? Don't worry I don't expect you to remember nor comment on this because ...there's nothing for you to say...But unlike you, I don't care if someone crys or not...Winning or Losing can probaly be very emotional for some of these guys, esspecially after the tremendous amount of sacrifice these guys put forth...

With that being said let me explain what brought me to my point...

Pac decided to pass on Yuri because he was a liitle to big for him...Sooo, what i did was take that information and let it swirl around in my brain and then I came to the conclusion that if he thinks Yuri is to big for him, then he wouldn't want to see Martinez in the ring because, I think PWill and Martinez are the cream of the crop in the JR Middleweight Division and think Martinez easily handles Yuri... So this is how I came to my "Pac, couldn't compete with Martinez for 12 rounds" everyone knows Yuri is the weakest of the JR Middleweight Champions.

Now Clottey, have you watched Clottey over his career??? I have and he hasn't beaten anyone, except for Judah...This is only name victory, and at 147 for goodness sakes...I can see that but celebrating multiple losses??? With that being said, have you seen his comp at 154??? Nothing but journeymen??? Lastly, he's being justified as a great opponent for losing (OK maybe even fought to a Draw) to a guy who was HUMILIATED by PAC...but he's going to stand in there with Martinez for 12 rounds?

What I said was based on what I've seen and heard, what you'll reply with is nothing but hypotheticals because there isn't any evidence that Clottey or PAC would be anything but doormats for the very best of the JR Middleweight division...

Axiously awaiting your reply?

Peace MO!

[daggum]

???Ummm...and I suppose they CAN because, YOU SAY SO??? trust me, I'm not trying to get in a pissing match with youbut, if you EVER want to know why I feel the way I do...I'd be more than happy to tell you, Just ask.

As YOU SAID "...and start crying like cintron thats for sure win or lose." I suppose you don't remember PAC CRYING after victories??? Don't worry I don't expect you to remember nor comment on this because ...there's nothing for you to say...But unlike you, I don't care if someone crys or not...Winning or Losing can probaly be very emotional for some of these guys, esspecially after the tremendous amount of sacrifice these guys put forth...

With that being said let me explain what brought me to my point...

Pac decided to pass on Yuri because he was a liitle to big for him...Sooo, what i did was take that information and let it swirl around in my brain and then I came to the conclusion that if he thinks Yuri is to big for him, then he wouldn't want to see Martinez in the ring because, I think PWill and Martinez are the cream of the crop in the JR Middleweight Division and think Martinez easily handles Yuri... So this is how I came to my "Pac, couldn't compete with Martinez for 12 rounds" everyone knows Yuri is the weakest of the JR Middleweight Champions.

Now Clottey, have you watched Clottey over his career??? I have and he hasn't beaten anyone, except for Judah...This is only name victory, and at 147 for goodness sakes...I can see that but celebrating multiple losses??? With that being said, have you seen his comp at 154??? Nothing but journeymen??? Lastly, he's being justified as a great opponent for losing (OK maybe even fought to a Draw) to a guy who was HUMILIATED by PAC...but he's going to stand in there with Martinez for 12 rounds?

What I said was based on what I've seen and heard, what you'll reply with is nothing but hypotheticals because there isn't any evidence that Clottey or PAC would be anything but doormats for the very best of the JR Middleweight division...

Axiously awaiting your reply?

Peace MO!

have you watched cintron's career? i have. he's gotten ktfo against every good fighter he's ever fought. has clottey? no. has pac no. in fact they have beaten or been competitive with every top fighter they ever faced. and they faced much tougher competition. and you are implying martinez would destroy them. laughable. you say clottey has only beaten judah and he's being praised for his losses. well lets see who has martinez beat? FUC-K ALL. he's being praised for a loss against williams and a draw against cintron. you rip clottey and praise martinez. hypocrite.

[Modobo3]

have you watched cintron's career? i have. he's gotten ktfo against every good fighter he's ever fought. has clottey? no. has pac no. in fact they have beaten or been competitive with every top fighter they ever faced. and they faced much tougher competition. and you are implying martinez would destroy them. laughable. you say clottey has only beaten judah and he's being praised for his losses. well lets see who has martinez beat? FUC-K ALL. he's being praised for a loss against williams and a draw against cintron. you rip clottey and praise martinez. hypocrite.

OK OK I can tell you're getting emotional...but can we stay on topic...I was clearly pointing out the difference between 147 and 154 but I guess you missed that...I'll make it easier for you to understand...

Everyone but you knows Margarito is a cheat...i don't need any special evidence...because most people understand that if you cheat once, you've more than likely cheated before...so there's two losses for Cintron...Who else did he lose to??? Because, every site I've looked at has him at one loss.

i'll even give you the actual Martinez DRAW as a loss...because That wasn't the point of contention. It was however about Clottey being this Mt Everest and Cintron all of a sudden being a bum...

I was clearly stating what PAC himself has already said JR MIDDIE is to big for him, so if its to big for him why can't Cintron get any credit for going up their
and going twelve with one of the best of the division and as for Clottey, why does he get so much credit from you when he can't get by a weak Cotto and a great 130 pounder in PAC...because he is going to lose to PAC - Bet the house.

BTW calm down...We're only discussing this and I've never attacked you???
And who else knocked Cintron out??? because I remember Martinez knocking him down but not out???

[Modobo3]

have you watched cintron's career? i have. he's gotten ktfo against every good fighter he's ever fought. has clottey? no. has pac no. in fact they have beaten or been competitive with every top fighter they ever faced. and they faced much tougher competition. and you are implying martinez would destroy them. laughable. you say clottey has only beaten judah and he's being praised for his losses. well lets see who has martinez beat? FUC-K ALL. he's being praised for a loss against williams and a draw against cintron. you rip clottey and praise martinez. hypocrite.

BTW...PAC has been KTFO...just stating the facts...and it doesn't matter that it was a long time ago...just saying

[daggum]

OK OK I can tell you're getting emotional...but can we stay on topic...I was clearly pointing out the difference between 147 and 154 but I guess you missed that...I'll make it easier for you to understand...

Everyone but you knows Margarito is a cheat...i don't need any special evidence...because most people understand that if you cheat once, you've more than likely cheated before...so there's two losses for Cintron...Who else did he lose to??? Because, every site I've looked at has him at one loss.

i'll even give you the actual Martinez DRAW as a loss...because That wasn't the point of contention. It was however about Clottey being this Mt Everest and Cintron all of a sudden being a bum...

I was clearly stating what PAC himself has already said JR MIDDIE is to big for him, so if its to big for him why can't Cintron get any credit for going up their
and going twelve with one of the best of the division and as for Clottey, why does he get so much credit from you when he can't get by a weak Cotto and a great 130 pounder in PAC...because he is going to lose to PAC - Bet the house.

BTW calm down...We're only discussing this and I've never attacked you???
And who else knocked Cintron out??? because I remember Martinez knocking him down but not out???

cotto is weak now? yea you aren't being reasonable at all. clottey lost to the weak cotto? yet the great martinez can't beat a blown up welterweight with no heart and his best win is alex bunema? and you don't think clottey can compete with him? you do realize 154 is a **** division as well? people go there to avoid welters and middleweights. martinez was run out of the welterweight division when he was knocked out by margarito. but yea clottey can't compete with martinez.

also just cause pac doesn't want to fight someone doesn't mean he would lose to them. but that's you just being hypothetical. i guess margarito, mosley, cotto, williams, and pac would all beat floyd just cause he doesnt want to fight them.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Clottey is better, Clottey will win... I can't believe all of a sudden Clottey became such a terrible fighter...

Its funny, because the same crowd that is ****ting on Josh now,

are the same ones who were hyping him up during Margaritos run atop the welterweight division.

For a quick minute, Clottey was their savior to end Margarito.

[Hijo de Dios]

Clottey could take Cintron's best punch.

Cintron cannot take Clottey's best punch.

Based on that, I'll go with Clottey.

Zab Judah and Diego Corrales took Clottey's best punches.

Josh is stronger and tougher. cintron has more power and is the better boxer.

Cintron takes a decision over Clottey. Just like Cintron beat Angulo.... same blueprint.