Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Mosley For June?; Hopkins-Jones II, More

[DigitalBeast]

Jones-Hopkins should be an exhibition match. It could even be the first fight on the undercard of Pac-Clottey.

Why would you say that? I think it should be a good fight, knowing the history.

[boxingfan76]

Manny the bunny took Cotto's best shots but would the bunniless Manny? I dont think so. That's why Manny doesn't wanna take the test.

manroid hasnt beat anybody at welterweight that says hes super human,manroid is a solid welterweight and has been for a number of years, if u look at his in fight ring weights they have not changed since the morales fights,consistently well over 140 hes a full blown welter, not a feather weight beating up bigger guys all that **** is media bs to sell copy.the only difference now is hes losing less weight to compete in other weight classes.dwight muhammed quawi was only 5 ft 6 like manroid and he had 2 wars with a prime holyfield.at cruiserweight. what counts is ,height not as much.

[JCaster]

pacroid isnt a volume puncher he averages 70 pounches a rnd maybe 75average for welterweight .williams and margarito are volume punchers they consistently average 100 or more per round margarito still hold the guiness book of world records,record for most punches thrown in a fight.so the pressure swarm angle isnt there for manroid.manroid isnt a body puncher, like jlc. im not of the belief that fraud is featherfisted, his style is safety first which causes him to score less ko's, he hits hard plenty hard otherwise he wouldnt be 40 and o .from a chin standpoint equal. reach speed defense all go to fraud,plus rt handed NATURAL STANCE ,unlike hatton,cotto,delahoya) from a stylistic standpoint manroid has no advantages at all and would put manroid into all sorts of problems with fraud jr, maybe he can rip through his defence and win, but manroid hits no harder than hoya or jlc,or judah like i said well never know.maybe fraud cowardice would cost him the fight, but he always takes over late woulda been a good one.

dont be ******.. we know pacquiao is a precise volume puncher and it comes with speed.

[DigitalBeast]

Hopkins aint steamrolling his opponents and we're not talking about a young fighter. All this started for Manny after 50 fights, 50. BS!!!!!!!! He never was a KO artist but all of a sudden he's KOing KO artist? BS!!!! I never believed it cause I've been a boxing fan all my life and have continuously watched fighters move up in weight and seen what happens to them when they do. Manny's body is fatless, his punches are quicker then ever and he punches harder then ever, BS!!!!!!!!!!!! Most of all he takes Cotto's punches without flinching, BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He dropped Marquez how many times? He didn't KO a visibly weak De La Hoya. Cotto did snap his head back with a jab, pretty positive. Didn't he join with Roch only relatively recently? Is is too hard to think he may be getting better nutrition under Ariza? A guy of his size should be able to carry his weight quite well. What's the problem? Hard work pays off, and he is known to work very hard, and not drink and eat crap.

[check hook]

you're a fool.

manny agreed to 24 days (from 30 days) only after hbo sports boss greenburg disclosed the fact that the series 24/7 aired video of manny taking a blood test 24 days before r the hatton fight. BEFORE THAT DISCLOSURE, manny was holding on hard to a 30-day limit.

floyd called for a 14-day limit, which would have been the half-way point between manny's 30-day limit, and floyd's wish to put the testing limit at 1 day before the fight.

all during this fiasco, you neglect to mention a few points:

1 - manny - faced with the onging hits to his credibility - could have easily just taken the tests if he had nothing to hide.

2 - instead, he chose to first claim that he's afraid of needles. when several boxing writers questioned that logic, manny then stated he feared taking a blood test immediately before the fight would "weaken" him.

3 - finally, manny chose to file a lawusuit - citing the mayweathers and golden boy had damaged his repuation. again...and i'll repeat again - all he had to do was take the test to fight any assaut on his reputation.

i've restated the stuff above several times on this forum...including that fact the boxing writers at the "majors" - espn, nydailynews, &yahoosports...all agreed that:

1 - floyd was calling for tests that would have ensured both fighters were clean...AND as a result - floyd had the MORAL HIGH GROUND on this issue.

2 - those boxing writers also came to the conclustion that manny essentially blew it at the last stage of the negotiations by again refusing to not only take the test, but then failing to agree to "fair" compromise of 14-days (the half way mark between both of their initial requests).

i will add a third point..and say that I BELIEVE floyd shares the blame in this..because at the end of the negotiations - when it was apparent manny's ignorance regarding the "weakened theory" would not let him budge off of 24 days - that floyd should have said F it and take the high road an agree to 24 days. (there is NO medical evidence to prove manny's claim...it's a vial for crying out loud)

this is all common sense. but you and the rest of manny's fanboys - ON THIS FORUM - have stubbornly refused to take your focus off of floyd...and the fact that he called for these tests. you and your fanboy brethern also don't seem to realize that it really doesn't matter WHO called for the tests. at the end of the day this simply became a matter of integrity. manny's honesty was called into question and he refused to take the most direct road to a perfect defense: TAKING THE TESTS.

there are serveral editorials out there from the major boxing writers relaying the above positions. take a read. the most recent one comes from tim smith of the ny daily news (one of the more well known boxing writers working in america for those fanboys who don't live here).

here's the link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ayweather.html

fanboys...have fun on your knees in front a poster of manny posed as Jesus. you guys are just pitiful.

and let me be clear. i am not a "floyd fanatic". i like manny. i like floyd. hell, i even like cotto and clottey. i am a fanatic about the sport of boxing...and i'm just calling'em like i see'em.

a final question - which every one of you fanboys has managed to dodge:

and i know answering it will be difficult because it will require you to look at this situation OBJECTIVELY. But give it a try.

****"Can you offer a singular logical explanation why you - as a boxing fan, wouldn't want to know for sure that BOTH of the boxers involved in the biggest fight in the history of the sport - ARE CLEAN?"***

read over this post again, then re-read the questio above...and i'll wait for your answer fool.

au revoir...

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Great post. Co-sign this 1.



Standard and illogical ******* responses to this post:

1. Floyd dosen't call the shots.

2. Manny agreed to blood random blood testing. LMAO @ that 1!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. Floyd just wants to waken Manny by draining his blood and gaining an unfair advantage....LMAO even more @ this 1!!!!

4. Floyd dosen't make the rules. Why can't they just abide by NSAC rules?


I would like to point out Shane Mosley admitted to using THG and EPO for rematch with ODLH. He came up clean. Does the NSAC even test the urine for EPO??.....i doubt it.

Quite simply there was no reason at all for manny not to agree to random testing. One can only draw 2 conclusions:

1. He is clean but does not want to fight Floyd.

2. He is doping, and will only fight floyd if he can continue to dope.


*******s can't accept that these 2 conclusions, so they prefer to believe Manny is afraid of needles, needs 24 days to recover mentally and physically from giving blood, is superstitious or that 24 days of no testing is random and he couldn't cheat in that window if he wanted to (refuted by Don Caitlin and anyone else who knows even a little bit about doping in sports).

[iloveboxing2]

Floyd/Sugar Would Be A Good One.....

If ever this fight happens Sugar will maul Pretty Boy but Sugar will eventually lose via split d. the way I see it, Sugar by late KO or Pretty by decision.
Sugar has his hand full at the moment, Berto is a tough cookie. If Sugar wins convincingly I doubt Pretty Boy will give him a shot. He will pick Nate for sure because even though his smaller, he was the undisputed lightweight champ that Pac avoided but....
... It will make more sense if he decides to fight Alexander.

[Sugar Q]

He dropped Marquez how many times? He didn't KO a visibly weak De La Hoya. Cotto did snap his head back with a jab, pretty positive. Didn't he join with Roch only relatively recently? Is is too hard to think he may be getting better nutrition under Ariza? A guy of his size should be able to carry his weight quite well. What's the problem? hard work pays off, and he is known to work very hard, and not drink and eat crap.

Im sure he is getting better nutrition under Ariza the problem is it's illegal! I'm totally for a man getting ahead in life but let's play fair. We're talking about millions of dollars.

[DigitalBeast]

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Great post. Co-sign this 1.



Standard and illogical ******* responses to this post:

1. Floyd dosen't call the shots.

2. Manny agreed to blood random blood testing. LMAO @ that 1!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. Floyd just wants to waken Manny by draining his blood and gaining an unfair advantage....LMAO even more @ this 1!!!!

4. Floyd dosen't make the rules. Why can't they just abide by NSAC rules?


I would like to point out Shane Mosley admitted to using THG and EPO for rematch with ODLH. He came up clean. Does the NSAC even test the urine for EPO??.....i doubt it.

Quite simply there was no reason at all for manny not to agree to random testing. One can only draw 2 conclusions:

1. He is clean but does not want to fight Floyd.

2. He is doping, and will only fight floyd if he can continue to dope.


*******s can't accept that these 2 conclusions, so they prefer to believe Manny is afraid of needles, needs 24 days to recover mentally and physically from giving blood, is superstitious or that 24 days of no testing is random and he couldn't cheat in that window if he wanted to (refuted by Don Caitlin and anyone else who knows even a little bit about doping in sports).

Yet, Floyd's camp can't follow their words, and whoop Manny, regardless. Dropping a supposed 20 million asswhooping is silly.

[GRUSTLER]

Why should Manny be the dictator? Aint no way in the world you or me is gonna get accused of something we can prove we didnt do. Manny is not the bigger draw than PBF!!!! Check their common opponents. PBF could've stood his ground for 55/45 and been totally justified. Manny dictates to every fighter he faces, who the f--k do he think he is. Now he doesn't wanna do whats really good for boxing at a time when PEDs are running rampant in sports. Why? Because he's on that **** too and you and everybody else knows it!

I mean, I don't like to accuse anyone without knowing in doubt
if it is true or not BUT what baffles me is why couldn't Manny
just agree to 14 days before the fight? He agreed to 24? So
what makes 10 days apart such a big difference? Manny walked
away from the BIGGEST & RICHEST fight in the sport of Boxing
because of 10 days? Why wouldn't he want to do it? It's just
giving blood? How could him giving blood affect him for 14 days
before the fight? Manny is walking the path of a guilty man if
you ask me. He is trying to sue Floyd for asking him to take tests
along with him? So why didn't Floyd just try to sue himself?
Freddie Roach has said NUMEROUS times that March wouldn't
be enough time for Manny to get prepared for Floyd. Bob Arum
didn't want Floyd Mayweather Jr to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think
a lot of Pac fans know something is up because many are so
defensive about it and make so many excuses. Manny killed
the fight not Floyd. If Floyd would have done this all Hell would
have broke loose. Floyd wanted the fight to be fair and if Manny
wasn't dirty then he should of taken the test and then sued
Floyd and Golden Boy. Bob Arum, Top Rank, Freddie Roach and
Manny Pacquiao threw up so many smoke screams it was ridiculous
to hear the excuses and not feel like they think we are idiots. Now
Pac wants Clottey at 147 to change the subject about him possibly
juicing. I like Manny Pacquiao and he earned my respect for proving
me wrong 3 times but for him to drop the ball on this fight for a lil
sample of blood at an unknowing times has got to raise su****ion.
If Pac knock Clottey out? Then............

[boxingfan76]

dont be ******.. we know pacquiao is a precise volume puncher and it comes with speed.

see? its *******s like u that bother me, on this site. u insult first cuz we cant say a single FACT against ur god manroid, look it up its a FACT !!manroid isnt a volume puncher!!!!!!! do your research then insult. moron.he averages 70 -80 at most and thats if he winning by ko, hes not a volume puncher the facts are there!!! look up the compubox ******!