Pacman and Arum KNEW about 14 Days since Janury 1st.

[Bigchill79]

As I posted elsewhere:
Only one of Burner's links is worth considering:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/mma/boxing/01/08/pacquiao.clottey/index.html

It has Blob sending Koncz an email January 1st, regarding
the 14 day angle (it just about coincides with when the 24/7
footage thing got floated), to which Koncz emailed back
that he'd asked Manny but got a 'no'. This also matches up
with when the unusually articulate statement in English
"from Manny" got posted on his website, stating his firm
demand for 30 days... just like Blob originally demanded

This was not a week after Pac said for the second time, on
video, that "basta huwag naman sa araw ng laban", or
48 hours!!

The sudden change doesn't make sense, and I think Koncz
and Arum are spinning this to blame Manny for their own
blunder... although Arum in the same interview seems to
realize he's on dangerous ground and admits HE'S to blame.

I think Schaefer's right: Manny wasn't told until after the
arbitration failed, but I certainly don't blame Floyd partisans
for buying this "Bob says Koncz said Manny said no" tale.... lol.

h.

Great points. Still though its hard to believe Pac or even Roach (who you'd think woulda informed Manny) weren't aware of the 14 days. imho

[ummmid]

Yes.. the way to stand against bullies is not to fight them, but to run to your lawyers.

agreed this is how you stand against bullies...

bully: you gay, you love **** sex.

hijo de dios: no sir, i'm straight.

bully: prove it, bend over, then spread your ass cheeks wide open.

hijo de dios: like this?

*half an hour passed*

hijo de dios: so *unnh*, have i proven it yet? *unhh*

bully: no *uunh*, wait a few more *unnh* mins *unnh*

hijo de dios: POR LA MACETA!!

[Foodie One]

U dont have to be an expert to reason that 14 days seems fair. Esp when medical experts have said a 30 day cut-off was pointless to catch designer PEDs. A quick Googling could do the trick.

So what you are saying is that an immediate blood test after a fight will not detect any traces of steroids whatsoever right?

Please provide a link to the above.

[Bigchill79]

First of all, what gives anyone here the notion that a 14-Day cutoff time is fair to begin with? Can any of these voters relate to the Pacman's uneasiness to be subjected to these kinds of tests so near to a scheduled fight nor can offer personal experience in steroid testing that can confirm that Pretty Boy's cutoff stipulation is fair? OF COURSE NOT. "Fight Fans" are clueless as to how such steroid testing can affect an elite athlete's physical and psychological condition.
JAT

Because we can decipher what the experts say and point to the shifting excuses Pacquiao and his team made for rejecting the tests from the outset.

[horge]

agreed this is how you stand against bullies...

bully: you gay, you love **** sex.

hijo de dios: no sir, i'm straight.

bully: prove it, bend over, then spread your ass cheeks wide open.

hijo de dios: like this?

*half an hour passed*

hijo de dios: so *unnh*, have i proven it yet? *unhh*

bully: no *uunh*, wait a few more *unnh* mins *unnh*

hijo de dios: POR LA MACETA!!

Holy ****...

[hahaa]

GBP made an argument that there was blood drawn prior to the Hatton fight, the date was yet to be determined.

The assumption was it was sooner than the cut-off date that pac asked for.

It was later determined that it was 24 days prior to the fight, 6 days shorter than pac's stance.

After it was known, Pac shaved 6 days off his demand, agreed to do 24 days

Floyd wanted 14.

Had the date been 14 days prior to the fight Pac i'm sure would have conformed to the 14 days, he would be hypocritical not to.

Yet IMO should it have been 14 days, Floyd would have countered with a 10ish days.

Regardless if he knew about the demand of 14 days, he conformed to the same timeline as the last time he gave blood prior to the Hatton fight.

[#1Assassin]

So what you are saying is that an immediate blood test after a fight will not detect any traces of steroids whatsoever right?

Please provide a link to the above.

yes thats right. if theres a 24 day cut of thats plenty of time for drug use with the intention to enhance training, only to have them leave his system by fight night.

[Foodie One]

Because we can decipher what the experts say and point to the shifting excuses Pacquiao and his team made for rejecting the tests from the outset.

Your reply is weak at best. You've avoided these questions. Answer them if you can.

Can any of these voters relate to the Pacman's uneasiness to be subjected to these kinds of tests so near to a scheduled fight nor can offer personal experience in steroid testing that can confirm that Pretty Boy's cutoff stipulation is fair?

[rommel357]

Burner,

I'll talk to you about this on the next Horus call. You probably shouldn't expect a barefoot kid in a sweaty internet cafe to understand.

That's just wrong. That's Pretty ****ing racist and demeaning, i hope you're proud of yourself. Try not to be so ignorant next time and educate yourself, not everyone in the Philippines is dirt poor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6it6qExw-gs

More pics in this thread: http://www.philmug.ph/forum/showthre...t=2137&page=79

[Foodie One]

yes thats right. if theres a 24 day cut of thats plenty of time for drug use with the intention to enhance training, only to have them leave his system by fight night.

You're quick to agree now provide your proof.