Pacman and Arum KNEW about 14 Days since Janury 1st.

[Foodie One]

In this thread 88% of Boxingscene said it was fair. The votes were 301 to 40.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346063

Yes its fair
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Giving your opinion that a 14-day cutoff time for drug testing is acceptable when you have absolutely no Steroid use experience nor medical expertise that can justify the reasoning behind your thinking is reckless without a doubt. What is your opinion based on?

So it is clear that the poll you are referring to is meaningless and contributes nothing to this steroid testing debacle. JAT

[THE REED]

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..........YOU..........ME

This is the kind of reply one makes when they are owned.


Id take Roys career over Joes anyday... So Im fine with it.

[Bigchill79]

Giving your opinion that a 14-day cutoff time for drug testing is acceptable when you have absolutely no Steroid use experience nor medical expertise that can justify the reasoning behind your thinking is reckless without a doubt. What is your opinion based on?

So it is clear that the poll you are referring to is meaningless and contributes nothing to this steroid testing debacle. JAT

U dont have to be an expert to reason that 14 days seems fair. Esp when medical experts have said a 30 day cut-off was pointless to catch designer PEDs. A quick Googling could do the trick.

[aquinos24]

Providing factual information, with links and direct quotes... but it's a garbage thread?

No you are a biased poster.

PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER fight was already off,why waste time debating why,when,what when pac-may not happening?are there any thread other than pac-may? im a boxing fan,i love to watch those two guy but if it those not happen then life goes on.

[Bogig]

It doesn't matter. No one should hold Manny accountable to follow rules that
have not been set by the governing body AND have never been required of any other boxer in the entire history of the sport.

It's that simple. He already compromised to take random blood tests 24 days before the fight and immediately after the fight, on top of unlimited urine testing,

... and if that isn't enough for primadona FLOYD, then tough sh#t !

[Hijo de Dios]

That is what we call refusing and standing against bullies! :

Yes.. the way to stand against bullies is not to fight them, but to run to your lawyers.

[horge]

As I posted elsewhere:
Only one of Burner's links is worth considering:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/mma/boxing/01/08/pacquiao.clottey/index.html

It has Blob sending Koncz an email January 1st, regarding
the 14 day angle (it just about coincides with when the 24/7
footage thing got floated), to which Koncz emailed back
that he'd asked Manny but got a 'no'. This also matches up
with when the unusually articulate statement in English
"from Manny" got posted on his website, stating his firm
demand for 30 days... just like Blob originally demanded

This was not a week after Pac said for the second time, on
video, that "basta huwag naman sa araw ng laban", or
48 hours!!

The sudden change doesn't make sense, and I think Koncz
and Arum are spinning this to blame Manny for their own
blunder... although Arum in the same interview seems to
realize he's on dangerous ground and admits HE'S to blame.

I think Schaefer's right: Manny wasn't told until after the
arbitration failed, but I certainly don't blame Floyd partisans
for buying this "Bob says Koncz said Manny said no" tale.... lol.

h.

[THE REED]

PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER fight was already off,why waste time debating why,when,what when pac-may not happening?are there any thread other than pac-may? im a boxing fan,i love to watch those two guy but if it those not happen then life goes on.

First of all it's a boxing forum.

Second of all I was in almost every thread in NSB today.

I have almost 32k posts, clearly I don't discuss one topic.

[M.I Truth ?]

I made a thread about this when the info came out. My issue isnt them saying no....its Arum going out of his way to lie about it. Its like he knew they were wrong for not considering it.

[Foodie One]

In this thread 88% of Boxingscene said it was fair. The votes were 301 to 40.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346063

Yes its fair
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First of all, what gives anyone here the notion that a 14-Day cutoff time is fair to begin with? Can any of these voters relate to the Pacman's uneasiness to be subjected to these kinds of tests so near to a scheduled fight nor can offer personal experience in steroid testing that can confirm that Pretty Boy's cutoff stipulation is fair? OF COURSE NOT. "Fight Fans" are clueless as to how such steroid testing can affect an elite athlete's physical and psychological condition.

In conclusion, this poll is meaningless in determining fairness for this testing debacle. Opinion is not FACT. JAT