Clottey and his struggles to make 147????

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i'd agree for him to move down if he needs catchweights at 147 to compete.

i don't know if you know this but clottey fight will be at 147 not a catchweight. you're probably just playing dumb or are you playing?

a weak 147 pounder? clottey is one of the strongest guys at 147.

One of the strongest? ...as in he has a good chin? Cause thats all he really has going for him.

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Clottey is a big dude, I think this fight should take place at 147 pounds.

[Left Banned Tua]

If a guy like Clottey is hungry for a payday, he'll cut off his left arm to arm a catch-weight.

The fact that such a request is made, whether a fighter refuses or accepts it, is more indicative of of intentions to place an opponent at a great disadvantage...and the disadvantage of losing weight is a big deal. Specially for a guy like Clottey.

....the ironic thing is that this is a guy who refused to take a random blood test because it supposedly places him at a disadvantage. What a crock of ****.

when it comes to negotiating stuff like that , it's up to who has leverage.

it's part of the sport.

floyd asked. manny could accept or not. depends how much leverage floyd has.

before pacquiao was big , how come he had to come up to 126 instead of getting marco to 122? how come he had to wear winning gloves instead of making morales wear cleto-reyes? how come he had to go up to 130 instead of making morales go down to 126?

because those guys had leverage in negotiations.

when manny started getting some leverage , he's the one that gets things in his favor.

floyd never had any leverage against manny. they were on equal footing from the start.

the moment they turned down the dallas site , arum was not gonna make it easy.

[Left Banned Tua]

Clottey is a big dude, I think this fight should take place at 147 pounds.

it is at 147.

don't listen to these guys.

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One of the strongest? ...as in he has a good chin? Cause thats all he really has going for him.

clottey is a big dude even though he's not that tall.

as far as size goes (fight night weight) he's up there with margarito and them.

hell , he's heavier fight night than paul williams was at 147.

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when it comes to negotiating stuff like that , it's up to who has leverage.

it's part of the sport.

floyd asked. manny could accept or not. depends how much leverage floyd has.

before pacquiao was big , how come he had to come up to 126 instead of getting marco to 122? how come he had to wear winning gloves instead of making morales wear cleto-reyes? how come he had to go up to 130 instead of making morales go down to 126?

because those guys had leverage in negotiations.

when manny started getting some leverage , he's the one that gets things in his favor.

floyd never had any leverage against manny. they were on equal footing from the start.

the moment they turned down the dallas site , arum was not gonna make it easy.

Arum, Pac and Roach just didnt want the fight.

Pac claiming he neds 24 days to recover from a blood test is something that no pac fan should be content with.

Especially when Roach said he only needed a 5 day cut off.

Arum wanted Pac-Clottey from the start in Texas. Thats why Clottey pulled out his fight.

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clottey is a big dude even though he's not that tall.

as far as size goes (fight night weight) he's up there with margarito and them.

hell , he's heavier fight night than paul williams was at 147.

Clottey is big..but thats it.

Hes tailored made for Pac.

Struggles to make 147

No stamina...

No head movement

Left hand dominant

Fights in str8 lines

Flat-footed

Low punch output

Doesnt hit hard

Lost every big fight hes ever had

Pac destroys him bro.

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Clottey's strugles to make weight would explain why sometimes he is to passive and is giving rounds away, he has doubts about his conditioning due to the weight cut.

And also, he is probably concerned about cutting weight, he can't focus on the training as he would want to. Not to mention, fight was made at last minute, so that will affect his training camp also.

Pacman's team knows what they are doing, Pacquiao will just outwork him if nothing else, and get comfortable decision.

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I made my last comment based on the different reports coming from his Team, not from what others have said on this forum.

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Arum, Pac and Roach just didnt want the fight.

Pac claiming he neds 24 days to recover from a blood test is something that no pac fan should be content with.

Especially when Roach said he only needed a 5 day cut off.

Arum wanted Pac-Clottey from the start in Texas. Thats why Pac pulled out his fight.

possible.

i don't know about arum wanting pac-clottey from the start.

i use to think it was arum who wanted this fight made and pac was the problem.

lately i've reversed on the subject.

no one brings it up but me......but anyone notice how negotiations was going well until schaeffer refused to consider the arlington/dallas site?

after that negotiations went to ****.

now pac's next fight is in arlington and arum is buddy-buddy with cowboys owner jerry jones?

interesting to me.