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Originally posted by John-Locke-9-22 View PostAgain, my original statement was that the only decent fighter he fought was Barrera... Care to challenge that?
I already told you to look up the rankings of the time,you couldn't do this because you are as I said "silly and ignorant".
Kelley and Barrera are the only names that you recognize because you don't seem to know too much about boxing and these two men stand out as recognizable names to any casual boxing fan.
Vuyani Bungu IBF super bantamweight champion
Paul Ingle IBF featherweight champion
Kevin Kelley WBC featherweight champion
Wayne McCullough WBC bantamweight champion
Wilfredo Vazquez Three weight division champion
Cesar Soto WBC featherweight champion
Tom Johnson IBF featherweight champion
Steve Robinson WBO featherweight champion
Manuel Medina multiple time featherweight champion
Every single one of these fighters would pass as being "decent".A few of them would pass as being world class.
I told you before,and I will tell you again lad,look up the ring ratings of the time as see how Hamed's resume comes together.
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Originally posted by donkim View PostAnd yet you have still failed to look up the featherweight rankings of the time.I told you already that you are silly and ignorant of Hamed's resume,and you have proven yourself to be just that.
The facts are there lad,you're just too silly and ignorant to look them up.
Did you not read my one of my earlier posts? He is clearly ignorant of the rankings of the time,otherwise he would never come out with such nonsense.
All he has to do is look up Hamed's resume(like the boxrec ranger that I suspect him to be) and then look through the ring rankings during Hamed's time as an elite fighter and he will find his answer there.
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Originally posted by donkim View PostI already told you to look up the rankings of the time,you couldn't do this because you are as I said "silly and ignorant".
Kelley and Barrera are the only names that you recognize because you don't seem to know too much about boxing and these two men stand out as recognizable names to any casual boxing fan.
Vuyani Bungu IBF super bantamweight champion
Paul Ingle IBF featherweight champion
Kevin Kelley WBC featherweight champion
Wayne McCullough WBC bantamweight champion
Wilfredo Vazquez Three weight division champion
Cesar Soto WBC featherweight champion
Tom Johnson IBF featherweight champion
Steve Robinson WBO featherweight champion
Manuel Medina multiple time featherweight champion
Every single one of these fighters would pass as being "decent".A few of them would pass as being world class.
I told you before,and I will tell you again lad,look up the ring ratings of the time as see how Hamed's resume comes together.
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Originally posted by John-Locke-9-22 View PostSo the only fight he didn't train for was the only decent fighter he ever fought.......!!!
If you'd said the only great fighter (rather than decent), you might have had a point, except that he'd been neglecting his training and especially his sparring, for several years by then. He fell in love with his power and thought he could get away with neglecting his skills, and eventually he paid the price. His decline was very noticeable and widely commented on even before the Kelly fight.
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Originally posted by markbnlv View Post
Kevin Kelley was the only guy there close to elite bone up on boxing dude i have made you look foolish 2 days in a row.
And you're even misusing the word elite. It does not mean ATG. It does not mean Hall of Famer. It just means one of the best of the current bunch at the weight.
Most of Hamed's victims from when he won his first title onwards were ranked in the top 10 by The Ring at the time - in fact, most were ranked in the top 5. By any definition they were more than decent, and by the dictionary definition of the word elite they were that as well. And he had started to decline as a fighter long before the Barrera fight and even before the Kelly fight, due to his over-sized ego.Last edited by Dave Rado; 01-13-2010, 06:50 PM.
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1995
Tom Johnson
Luisito Espinosa
Manuel Medina
Alejandro Gonzalez
Naseem Hamed
Eloy Rojas
Ever Beleno
Miguel Arrozal
Derrick Gainer
Steve Robinson
1996
Tom Johnson
Luisito Espinosa
Naseem Hamed
Wilfredo Vazquez
Kevin Kelley
Ever Beleno
Welcome Ncita
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manuel Medina
Derrick Gainer
Don't have the top ten for 1997 sorry
1998
Naseem Hamed
Luisito Espinosa
Freddie Norwood
Derrick Gainer
Antonio Cermeno
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manuel Medina
Angel Vazquez
Cesar Soto
Wilfredo Vazquez
1999
Naseem Hamed
Freddie Norwood
Paul Ingle
Vuyani Bungu
Cesar Soto
Luisito Espinosa
Juan Manuel Marquez
Julio Pablo Chacon
Manuel Medina
Mbulelo Botile
Oh yeah Naz fought Bum after bum alright....
Oh You can Add Wayne McCollough who was top 5 At SBW aswell.Last edited by hammerhiem; 01-13-2010, 06:25 PM.
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