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  • #21
    Lol I wouldn't go that far, but I did catch Lenard Vs Hagler the other night.

    Sugar Ray Lenard did more holding and running than PBF has ever done in his life. I say Lenard had more power & better footwork in his career, but that's about it, Floyd is better at everything else.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Adrian 28 View Post
      Naw he only picked Hagler because he seen him slowing down...

      He wanted no parts of Hagler or Pryor.

      He avoids Pryor to fight Hagler?

      Give that one a rest.

      You know Pryor and Leonard were friends, and Pryor turned down that fight.

      For 500k.

      SRL afraid of a 140 pounder when he fought Hearns and Hagler.

      No frikkin way.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Allucard View Post
        Leonard's defense isn't nearly like Floyd's and Hoya tried combos on Floyd. Shoulder rolled them and countered. Not saying he'd do the same to Leonard's but he just might...
        lol yeah but De Le Hoya is not on Sugar Ray level at all and he gave Floyd problems so.......

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Adrian 28 View Post
          What do you consider to be Floyds flaw???

          He has NONE.

          I kno you know ur stuff so your response should be interesting.

          But Ive seen them all....SRR( the little footage that exists of him past it but still)....SRL....Duran...Ali...Sweet Pea...


          Bro a Floyd Mayweather jr. will NEVER come around again.
          Thats the thing, what is a perfect fighter? Someone who would be scoring first round knockouts all through out a career against everyone possible in every division he fought, without ever losing even in a second? Well, Floyd ain't that. Someone who never gets hit against no one? Well Floyd is closer to perfection in that department, but he certainly is not the best ever, especially since defence is just one side of the fighting game. And Floyd did get hit, against as was proven later a not as great as marketed opposition. So, I dont really like the whole "perfect" side, no one is perfect. Floyd might be the most optimal fighter in the game, if you only value, safety first approach of fighting, but I dont. Frankly, I think that if Leonard fought DLH, he would have went for a kick ass finish in that 12th and outbrawl and possibly stop Oscar, if the fight was close. I like that attitude better.
          And there is no hate here either. Cause I do consider Floyd to be the best "P4P" fighter in the game.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
            That is dog**** you heard on Legendary Nights.

            Look at the betting odds for that fight and tell me Leonard was even remotely close to being the favorite.

            People literally feared for Leonard's life.

            Hagler was a bad man who wrecked Hearns and the Beast Mugabe just before that, and those cats were ****in prime.

            Don't sell me that line. I ain't buying that one.
            Yes but he looked an OLD man beating Mugabe. I think Mugabe took allot out of Hagler that night.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Allucard View Post
              Out of curiosity, did people used to call Leonard a runner? I wouldn't but you know people... Fact is he "ran" allot more than Floyd ever did. Currently watching the second Duran fight. If Floyd ever did that he'd be booed to hell. Curiously people don't seem to be booing Leonard at all!

              He didn't run against Hearns, a big puncher than Duran.

              Ray knew when to fight and when to dance, and he got in his fair share and more of exchanges with a lot of guys.

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              • #27
                Check out the fight between SRL and Floyd SR. Floyd will also be humiliated like that.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
                  Thats the thing, what is a perfect fighter? Someone who would be scoring first round knockouts all through out a career against everyone possible in every division he fought, without ever losing even in a second? Well, Floyd ain't that. Someone who never gets hit against no one? Well Floyd is closer to perfection in that department, but he certainly is not the best ever, especially since defence is just one side of the fighting game. And Floyd did get hit, against as was proven later a not as great as marketed opposition. So, I dont really like the whole "perfect" side, no one is perfect. Floyd might be the most optimal fighter in the game, if you only value, safety first approach of fighting, but I dont. Frankly, I think that if Leonard fought DLH, he would have went for a kick ass finish in that 12th and outbrawl and possibly stop Oscar, if the fight was close. I like that attitude better.
                  And there is no hate here either. Cause I do consider Floyd to be the best "P4P" fighter in the game.
                  You're right, Foyd isn't that. Know who was? Mike Tyson. But eventually you'll find someone who you can't break or bully and then you point is defeated, sorry.

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                  • #29


                    In all seriousness Floyd has never fought anyone like Duran or Leonard...or Hagler

                    Benitez is a HOFer as well...

                    I think Floyd could give Leonard a good fight and frustrate him at times but Leonard is too big and just as fast...

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Allucard View Post
                      You're right, Foyd isn't that. Know who was? Mike Tyson. But eventually you'll find someone who you can't break or bully and then you point is defeated, sorry.
                      Well, you obviously have not read my whole post, now did you?

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