Victor Conte talking steroids, Pacquiao and Boxing

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  • Hijo de Dios
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    #31
    Regarding may/Pac: "The primary concern, i believe, is for EPO"

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    • DLT
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      #32
      Originally posted by Curtis Jackson
      Homez

      "Mann_P is on steezy"
      I didnt do that. A Pac fan did that to me like 3 years ago and I never removed it

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      • Hijo de Dios
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        #33
        Conte is stressing that May's concern was EPO. Not HGH.

        "You can get an advantage at 24 days that you can't at 14 days because of the testing period and ramping on/off."

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        • ThePunchingBag
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          #34
          Originally posted by Hijo de Dios
          You guys need to get more informed. You just want to call fighters cowards and duckers without seeking real information.

          There are MANY more tests that you can run on blood than you can run on urine. Including tracking, for example, the levels of hematocrit.

          What if they tested Pac the week before the fight, and his hemo level was 54?

          Note: the previous "2 week" information was for anabolics. But there are "many, many species" (conte words) of PEdf's.

          Insulin, thyroid drugs, EPO, sleep disorder drugs, etc.
          You need to read in context.

          The period in which HGH would be most effective is when the fighter is doing the more extensive training. Pacquiao would still be doing random drug tests long after they'd finished doing their hardest training.

          What's the use of using HGH when you're winding down your training regimen?
          Little to any at all.

          *****s jump at any opportunity to give these drug tests on Pacquiao credibility.

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          • swizz
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            #35
            its not hgh its epo their looking for

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            • Hijo de Dios
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              #36
              HGH is not a muscle-builder per se...but very effective at burning fat.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Hijo de Dios
                Conte is stressing that May's concern was EPO. Not HGH.

                "You can get an advantage at 24 days that you can't at 14 days because of the testing period and ramping on/off."
                Which is a very ****** concern.

                EPO increases stamina not punching power or punch resistance.

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                • Bee Keepz
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Hijo de Dios
                  Regarding may/Pac: "The primary concern, i believe, is for EPO"
                  I'm familiar with EPO, it requires blood monitoring, and REQUIRES expert monitoring.

                  The problem with this is that according to WADA and Dr. Catlin urine testing is the best test to test for EPO. Hct levels are just to tip off USADA/WADA that the person is showing uncharacteristic Hct level and cheaper than the urine testing.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Biolink
                    Yes in passing.

                    Just talking about Conte's SNAC products. Ward says they help him a lot, and he backs Conte 300%

                    http://snac.com/index.htm
                    I don't get why Ward and Chambers will be working with that guy.

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                    • DLT
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                      #40
                      Floyd is use to breaking guys down and he doesnt want Pac to have all this unatural engery late when Floyd has ususally slowed cats down a ton

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