Comments Thread For: Pacquiao May Target Mosley-Berto Winner, Says Roach

[jetgeomcx]

Mosely has the tools (a good right hand and speed)to beat Manny-possibly by ko.When Mosely stepped up to Pacquiao,Manny chose the war torn Cotto...now Clottey-seriously,I'm not paying for this ****.I'd pay 100 dollars to see a Floyd/Manny fight,but I wont pay 1 dollar to see a guy who needs to plant his feet to punch and get tagged all night-we seen that with the Oscar and Cotto fight...

hey, now cotto is is suddenly war torn.
are you being funny or sarcastic??
mosley has more wear and tear compared to cotto......
at 38 yo and 52 fyts against forrest, mayorga, vargas, oscar, margo, cotto and jrMW wright and marquez.
and cotto UD mosley.....

[KabukiJoe]

PAC would make mosley quit on the stool by round 6 and he would KO berto in about 4 rounds

...I like Manny but I don't think Mosley would be that easy...I think this is really the best fight out there, as far as from a spectator's perspective...Mayweather would try to slow the pace down so he can control the fight, Mosley would be like Hatton and want to trade, but unlike Hatton, he's got boxing skill...I'd pay for both fights but I think the Mosley fight would be really exciting and Mayweather would be boring...


Kabuki Joe

[elgaringo]

...I like Manny but I don't think Mosley would be that easy...I think this is really the best fight out there, as far as from a spectator's perspective...Mayweather would try to slow the pace down so he can control the fight, Mosley would be like Hatton and want to trade, but unlike Hatton, he's got boxing skill...I'd pay for both fights but I think the Mosley fight would be really exciting and Mayweather would be boring...


Kabuki Joe

I agreee as a spectacle it would be a much better fight! Pac needs mayweather less and less, theres top fighters out there for pac to fight to ensure he's much higher on the ATG list. history wont be kind to mayweather as a fighter playing it safe and ducking!!!

[KabukiJoe]

Manny is good boxing and trading punches in the center of the ring against fighters who come forward and can't throw a straight right hand...Freddie is concerned about fighting Floyd because he knows Floyd won't come forward or stop and trade....he will move constantly and force Pac forward.....it will frustrate Pac.....Floyd is a master at measuring distance and can throw effectively on the back foot.....Floyd also dosen't care about playing to the crowd or making an exciting fight for the casual fans.....he will be happy to make it a boring fight and take a win..........

...it's funny how right now, right here in the good 'ol USA, a win is more important then a loss, no matter how terrible it is...Mayweather is only doing what is important, winning...I'll give him that much...


Kabuki Joe

[damned1974]

hey, now cotto is is suddenly war torn.
are you being funny or sarcastic??
mosley has more wear and tear compared to cotto......
at 38 yo and 52 fyts against forrest, mayorga, vargas, oscar, margo, cotto and jrMW wright and marquez.
and cotto UD mosley.....

Cotto was busted up severely against Margarito and honestly,he lost his momentum.Mosely has more fire in him then Cotto-the man who is talking about retiring after his 2nd loss and ironically is much younger than Shane..
Yes,Cotto won the official score in a close fight,but STYLES make fights.Mosely can bring things to Manny that Cotto doesn't...

[jetgeomcx]

How to beat a southpaw.....lead foot on outside of opponents lead foot....constantly move away from the left hand....get off first throw a str8 right hand followed by left hook......repeat until opponent is suitably bloodied.....


Guess who can throw str8 right hands and left hooks really well kiddies......Floyd Mayweather Jr and Shane Mosley......Guess who can't throw a str8 right hand to save their lives.....ODLH, Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton........

and guess who can throw straight lefts and follow it up with a solid right hook and another left uppercut/straight in devastating manner..... only manny pacman.

[realitychecker]

I agreee as a spectacle it would be a much better fight! Pac needs mayweather less and less, theres top fighters out there for pac to fight to ensure he's much higher on the ATG list. history wont be kind to mayweather as a fighter playing it safe and ducking!!!

you are joking if you think manny doesn't need floyd (just as much as floyd needs manny). it's the BIGGEST fight in boxing. wake up and stop drinking the kool-aid. allowing bob arum to let manny run through the rest of his inferior Top Rank stable is not good for boxing. it's only good for arum's wallet - and manny's record.

[jetgeomcx]

...it's funny how right now, right here in the good 'ol USA, a win is more important then a loss, no matter how terrible it is...Mayweather is only doing what is important, winning...I'll give him that much...

Kabuki Joe

by Rick Rockwell :

"Mayweather has never cared about the people. It’s always been about him and the money. Now, all of a sudden we are supposed to believe that Pacquiao is the one that cares more about himself than his fans. If it walks and talks like a duck then it must be a duck. If you have a history of controversy and always blame others then why would we believe that Mayweather is innocent now?

The more I read about Mayweather, the more I learn that this man is all about himself and the money. If a guy can be that selfish and greedy, then why would any intelligent individual think anything other than Mayweather never accepts responsibility."

[Bee Keepz]

^^^
Tygart basically sums up how i feel about this situation 100%.



*******s won't like this:

FH: How might the desired effects that a boxer may want to achieve manifest itself in a boxer during a fight?

Tygart: Take a real-life example. Look at Shane Mosley and his doping program that was reported by a number outlets when he was involved with BALCO. He used both a designer steroid as well as blood enhancing products like EPO. This is a good anecdote as to how these drugs translate very well for boxers.

What you want with that combination of steroids and blood enhancing product is that you want to be the best pound-for-pound, with that lean muscle mass, and to be the strongest competitor that you can be. Whether that means that you are at 180, 170, 210.

Various forms of steroids and human growth hormone are going to allow you to do that. If you want lean muscle mass and be light, you're going to want a lot of HGH. You're going to cut weight, but that weight is going to be lean muscle mass.

It's not going to be fat. It's going to be the strongest pound-for-pound that you can get inside of your frame at that weight.


So, while you might not think of EPO being all that appealing to boxers, that's what allegedly Mosely was doing out of BALCO. And that makes perfectly good sense to us, because that's going to give you the kind of endurance you need in a late round in a hotly-contested and fought boxing match.

It's also going to greatly improve your ability to train. So there is also this sort of recovery training issue and what's it going to do for you on fight night. And it's significant.

EPO is detected in urine.

From WADA itself.

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources...EPO-Detection/

When was a test to detect EPO implemented?

A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO. This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.


Regarding HGH to gain weight, why not just eat? Majority of these guys are coming down from 20-25 lbs of walk around weight for weigh ins. They suck down and dehydrate themselves to as low as they can go.

Pacquiao was struggling to make 130 and has come up 15 lbs on fight night since MAB and JMM.

[SceneSpectator!]

All i kno is that Mayweather didn't want to fight pac.

Forget Floyd, he is a thing of the past! The clash of the titans now will be between Pac and SSM! Though SSM is a business partner of Oscar, I think he will not demand this random blood test that killed the supposed mega showdown between Pac and Floyd! SSM knows this mistake and he learned from this well!