Comments Thread For: Pacquiao May Target Mosley-Berto Winner, Says Roach

[SceneSpectator!]

like i said...racially insensitive is the term i'd go with. but hey - not everyone is going to agree. right, "jovin619"?

racially insensitive??? where??? If Floyd becomes white or brown in my Avatar then I will understand if you'll say my avatar is racially insensitive, lol!

[Mr. Chago]

jetgeo, you're living in a dreamworld. manny's dream world. totally caught up in the hype. there WERE questions about whether cotto was a changed man after that margarito fight...whipers about it after the clottey fight...loud statements after he decided to stand and trade against manny (bad idea, btw).

i'm by no means a floyd fanatic. just a fan of the sport. i could care less who "threw the first stone", or who f'd up during the manny-floyd negotiations.

let's just take a look at where we were IMMEDIATELY before bob arum ended this thing.

1 - manny initially wanted testing 30d out (and ONLY moved to after it was disclosed he did testing for the NSAC).

2 - floyd initially wanted testing right up until 1 day b4 the fight.

3 - what's stopping manny from meeting in the middle - at 14days? he'll agree to 24, but not 14? on prinicple? on freddie's assertion that "it weakens" him? are you kidding me? for $40M (MILLION) you say screw it, it's only 10 days from 24 to 14...and you suck it up fool.

do some research (espn/rafael, yahoosports/lole, nydailynews, etc)...they all agree "meeting in the middle at 14 days" is a reasonable compromise...and guess what:

IT'S EITHER ARUM OR MANNY (DOES HE REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?) WHO'S BALKING.

Good post. As your nick says it, that´s reality, the problem is some hallucinate their own reality to say nothing but ******ity...


PAC sign the 14 days!!...or propose between 14 and 24...19 DAYS (which is the ****ing same), IF you really wanted the fight you would agree...instead of being PROPOSING other fights already...

[realitychecker]

SceneSpectator,

the best way to respond to your obvious ignorance...is for me to just move on. good luck.

[solly6]

beto or mosley are not dumb enough to demand what floyd was. if you get a chance to fight the p4p king and welter weight champion you take it. maybe they will want 1 blood test after the fight and manny will be more than happy to do that. mosley is the one who has done steroids before. these two guys aren't doing random blood tests for there fight in jan 30 so how the **** they going demand that of pac.

[realitychecker]

beto or mosley are not dumb enough to demand what floyd was. if you get a chance to fight the p4p king and welter weight champion you take it. maybe they will want 1 blood test after the fight and manny will be more than happy to do that. mosley is the one who has done steroids before. these two guys aren't doing random blood tests for there fight in jan 30 so how the **** they going demand that of pac.

hey solly,

in all fairness, berto and mosely do NOT draw the ppv #s that manny and floyd have drawn over the last few years. THAT is why they would presumabley NOT make such a request.

the negotiations b/t manny and floyd were so tough BECAUSE of their status as two of the best in the game (and again, their ppv draw).

and believe me, i think manny is a phenom. no doubt about it. but you (and the rest of you manny desciples) should at least TRY to look at this saga OBJECTIVELY.

and let's not sit here in front of our computers and act like floyd came out of left field (in other words, out of no where) with a demand for random blood testing. maligaggi and others in the game have quietly wondered over the last year or so if manny's power (through the ranks) has been "assisted". even without those "whispers".

personally, i have no reason to believe manny's dirty. but given the fact that he's knocking people da F out with consistency over several weight classes, don't you think people are naturally going to wonder about him? of course!

i say let them wonder! let'em hate! manny is doing his thing!

ok. now let's all wake up. fast forward to the point where he's in negotiations with floyd for the richest fight EVER. the kind fo fight that can propel his legacy, and boxing's standing within the international sports community...to new heights.

here comes the speculation about manny doping as he opens talks with GBP/Floyd for "THE FIGHT".

do you address your incredible ability to knock people DA F out through several weight classes by:

A) letting your promotor (arum, who IMHO should be canned for his handling of this mess) allow statments attributed to manny express concern about being "weakened", a fear of needles, etc. furthermore, do you then adamantly refuse to take random blood tests within 30 days of the fight? then reluctantly move to 24 days when it's disclosed you took at blood test at 24 days for the hatton fight? then refuse to move back 10 more days?

or do you:

B) say, "not only have i been clean, but I AM clean now. and i'll not only take the tests now to prove it, but then i'll climb in the ring and whup floyd's ass for poppin' all of that ish".

is any of this making sense manny fanatics?

[iBEATBITCHES]

EPO is detected in urine.

From WADA itself.

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources...EPO-Detection/

When was a test to detect EPO implemented?

A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO. This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.


Regarding HGH to gain weight, why not just eat? Majority of these guys are coming down from 20-25 lbs of walk around weight for weigh ins. They suck down and dehydrate themselves to as low as they can go.

Pacquiao was struggling to make 130 and has come up 15 lbs on fight night since MAB and JMM.

Good read. Propers.

[jai mari078]

Shane/ Golden Boy/ Haymon etc....Will demand Blood Tests.

Shane would make more cash fighting Floyd anyway.

The problem with that theory is that Floyd won't fight Shane

[Bigchill79]

I think Clottey will end up being Pacs last fight. It will be hellacious.
Once hes in elected office - cant see anything bringing him back. Mosley or Berto will not look good against each other plus more testing controversy.

[fightingfigs]

Mosely beats Manny by TKO. And there's no way that Shane would demand drug testing either. He want's this fight too much, not to get it.

lol man, If Manny fights Shane that would be amazing. Who needs Floyd Mayweather then?

If you beat Cotto and Mosley you dont need anyone else at WW

[BillyBoxing]

Manny will be stopped by Mosely if they ever fight. Mosely's better than any past opponent Pac has ever fought at any weight. Other GBP fighters may demand drug tests, but Mosley won't.

Not sure.

I think Pacquiao can outspeed Mosley...