Comments Thread For: Pacquiao May Target Mosley-Berto Winner, Says Roach

[damned1974]

hey, now cotto is is suddenly war torn.
are you being funny or sarcastic??
mosley has more wear and tear compared to cotto......
at 38 yo and 52 fyts against forrest, mayorga, vargas, oscar, margo, cotto and jrMW wright and marquez.
and cotto UD mosley.....

Are you saying Cotto could bring more to Manny than Shane could???? Just because fighter "A" (Cotto) beat fighter "B" (Mosely),does not mean that fighter "C" (Manny) would have success.STYLES make fights and history shows that-funny that Manny's last 4 fights have come against people who walk straight forward,have limited defense,are LEFT hand converted/dominant (the last 3 have fought out of an orthodox stance even though they are left handed!) and there careers were on the decline (to top that off there were problems with weight for the last 3).In fact,you have to go back 5 (yes I said 5!) fights ago where Manny fought someone who had a right hand,and imo-Manny lost that one.Any other fighter who "profiles" other fighters or has a "criteria" with certain styles is called a cherry picker,funny how Manny get the green light though...

[jetgeomcx]

Cotto was busted up severely against Margarito and honestly,he lost his momentum. Mosely has more fire in him then Cotto-the man who is talking about retiring after his 2nd loss and ironically is much younger than Shane..
Yes,Cotto won the official score in a close fight,but STYLES make fights.Mosely can bring things to Manny that Cotto doesn't...

honestly too, i don't think cotto lost his momentum.
look at what he did against clottey.... he could have easily won had he opted to stop after that headbutt......
alas! he dogged on, fought and showed grit and tenacity.
i can say that he is intact mentally or psychologically.
he just lost to a better fyter in manny.....

i agree that shane's style will pose more difficulty for manny...hence he chose cotto first.
wise move isn't it??
but it doesnt mean he ducked mosley....
pac and shane have similar styles somehow, but pac's still is far better than shane's due to pac's work rate..... look at cotto as common denominator!

[jovin619]

no no..the question is will Roach/Pac STILL demand Mosley to drain down to 140/142 to get the fight..lmao...

the weight issue won't be an issue anymore cause pac is not coming from jr welterweight and his last fight has been with WW division. On floyd negotiation it was at a true WW and plus i think floyd was trying to make pac move to 154 for there fight but pac camp says no

[realitychecker]

honestly too, i don't think cotto lost his momentum.
look at what he did against clottey.... he could have easily won had he opted to stop after that headbutt......
alas! he dogged on, fought and showed grit and tenacity.
i can say that he is intact mentally or psychologically.
he just lost to a better fyter in manny.....

i agree that shane's style will pose more difficulty for manny...hence he chose cotto first.
wise move isn't it??
but it doesnt mean he ducked mosley....
pac and shane have similar styles somehow, but pac's still is far better than shane's due to pac's work rate..... look at cotto as common denominator!

jetgeo, you're living in a dreamworld. manny's dream world. totally caught up in the hype. there WERE questions about whether cotto was a changed man after that margarito fight...whipers about it after the clottey fight...loud statements after he decided to stand and trade against manny (bad idea, btw).

i'm by no means a floyd fanatic. just a fan of the sport. i could care less who "threw the first stone", or who f'd up during the manny-floyd negotiations.

let's just take a look at where we were IMMEDIATELY before bob arum ended this thing.

1 - manny initially wanted testing 30d out (and ONLY moved to after it was disclosed he did testing for the NSAC).

2 - floyd initially wanted testing right up until 1 day b4 the fight.

3 - what's stopping manny from meeting in the middle - at 14days? he'll agree to 24, but not 14? on prinicple? on freddie's assertion that "it weakens" him? are you kidding me? for $40M (MILLION) you say screw it, it's only 10 days from 24 to 14...and you suck it up fool.

do some research (espn/rafael, yahoosports/lole, nydailynews, etc)...they all agree "meeting in the middle at 14 days" is a reasonable compromise...and guess what:

IT'S EITHER ARUM OR MANNY (DOES HE REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?) WHO'S BALKING.

[realitychecker]

jetgeo, you're living in a dreamworld. manny's dream world. totally caught up in the hype. there WERE questions about whether cotto was a changed man after that margarito fight...whipers about it after the clottey fight...loud statements after he decided to stand and trade against manny (bad idea, btw).

i'm by no means a floyd fanatic. just a fan of the sport. i could care less who "threw the first stone", or who f'd up during the manny-floyd negotiations.

let's just take a look at where we were IMMEDIATELY before bob arum ended this thing.

1 - manny initially wanted testing 30d out (and ONLY moved to after it was disclosed he did testing for the NSAC).

2 - floyd initially wanted testing right up until 1 day b4 the fight.

3 - what's stopping manny from meeting in the middle - at 14days? he'll agree to 24, but not 14? on prinicple? on freddie's assertion that "it weakens" him? are you kidding me? for $40M (MILLION) you say screw it, it's only 10 days from 24 to 14...and you suck it up fool.

do some research (espn/rafael, yahoosports/lole, nydailynews, etc)...they all agree "meeting in the middle at 14 days" is a reasonable compromise...and guess what:

IT'S EITHER ARUM OR MANNY (DOES HE REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?) WHO'S BALKING.

and one more thing. you're probably not aware (given the fact that you either don't live in america OR aren't too familiar with its history), but that i'm getting a slightly racist vibe from that floyd/kfc logo. there's a connotation in that pic that isn't good...and would certainly irritate some old wounds for certain generations of african-americans.

[damned1974]

honestly too, i don't think cotto lost his momentum.
look at what he did against clottey.... he could have easily won had he opted to stop after that headbutt......
alas! he dogged on, fought and showed grit and tenacity.
i can say that he is intact mentally or psychologically.
he just lost to a better fyter in manny.....

i agree that shane's style will pose more difficulty for manny...hence he chose cotto first.
wise move isn't it??
but it doesnt mean he ducked mosley....
pac and shane have similar styles somehow, but pac's still is far better than shane's due to pac's work rate..... look at cotto as common denominator!

I'll just respectively choose to disagree with your view of Cotto.Many people did in fact believe Cotto's days at the top were few and far between before he was considered for a Pacquiao fight.Out of his last 4 fights,3 of them he did poorly,with 2 of them ending by stoppage-wouldn't that sound as if he was NOT on the rise in his career?
As for Manny opting for a fight against the easier opponent in Cotto-Isn't this what Floyd gets accused of?C'mon let be fair.In fact,if you truly believe that Cotto beat up Clottey,does it even make much sense to beat up the loser of the Cotto/Clottey fight? Style-wise,its just another fighter who stands in one place (plants his feet) before punching,he gasses often/takes rounds off,and isn't too quick.It's predictable.
Like I have said before,I'm not paying for this garbage fight to line Arum's pocket while he pretends that his golden egg laying goose (Manny) is rapidly beating Sugar Ray Robinson in ATG status-its just a joke.I like watching Manny fight,it's exciting-but he has fought one certain style long enough,it's time to mix it up and fight the toughest challenges-even if that means showing a small amount of compromise for a LARGE reward (money and legacy).
cheers

[jovin619]

I like the avatar at the bottom of your message its funny lol..

[jovin619]

Forget Floyd, he is a thing of the past! The clash of the titans now will be between Pac and SSM! Though SSM is a business partner of Oscar, I think he will not demand this random blood test that killed the supposed mega showdown between Pac and Floyd! SSM knows this mistake and he learned from this well!

Your avatar is funny lol....

[realitychecker]

I like the avatar at the bottom of your message its funny lol..

like i said...racially insensitive is the term i'd go with. but hey - not everyone is going to agree. right, "jovin619"?

[Mr. Chago]

mosley will be out of his gbp contract this year. he'll stay as a stockholder.

will he demand blood tests?

He won´t demand blood tests against PAC...so he can use steroids again...LOL