Foreman, Duran, Pedroza on PED's?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Duran is another bad example, Duran was a HUGE LW, of course he was gonna be very effective at 147. Over 147, he slowed down a ton. He was pretty much out of shape, sluggish, slowed down noticeably. He faught sort of lazy, reminded me of James Toney. He didn't fight with the same intensity.

[Reloaded]

So do you have an explanation on how there punch resistance became better later on there career?

His skull became calcified ,,,, seriously this is nothing but reaching into fantasy , Pac is suspected for a number of reasons relative to his rise from struggling with 130 pounders to KOing 147 pounders in only 18 months , its power strength and no body fat content change even though we have a 17 lb difference , the biggest concern with Pac is that it was all done in less than 18 mths .

Then on top of that you now have him running from a 40 mill payday to avoid a 14 test cutoff even those his trainer said 5 days was fine , the blatant ducking and constant lies and deceit from Pac and his Team add to the su****ions that Pac is a juicer .

[Doctor_Tenma]

Duran used steroids @ 154/160 ?? LOL???? Have you actually seen Durans physique at those weights? Same for Foreman, have you seen his physique? If these guys were using PEDs they must of been ****.

Also, Pacquiao doesn't use PEDs.

He was fat around the waist. Slowed down so much that he couldn't even catch up to Laing. Sad stuff to watch considering he had no problem cutting off the ring against Leonard.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

His skull became calcified ,,,, seriously this is nothing but reaching into fantasy , Pac is suspected for a number of reasons relative to his rise from struggling with 130 pounders to KOing 147 pounders in only 18 months , its power strength and no body fat content change even though we have a 17 lb difference , the biggest concern with Pac is that it was all done in less than 18 mths .

Then on top of that you now have him running from a 40 mill payday to avoid a 14 test cutoff even those his trainer said 5 days was fine , the blatant ducking and constant lies and deceit from Pac and his Team add to the su****ions that Pac is a juicer .

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342904

[B u r n e r]

You guys can defend Pac all you want. But he is scared ****less of random blood testing.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.

[jrosales13]

Duran is another bad example, Duran was a HUGE LW, of course he was gonna be very effective at 147. Over 147, he slowed down a ton. He was pretty much out of shape, sluggish, slowed down noticeably. He faught sort of lazy, reminded me of James Toney. He didn't fight with the same intensity.

But, what you stating has nothing to do with him getting dropped at LW and yet being able to take punches from big strong MWs...

[B u r n e r]

How many got razor thin ripped.

Hit harder.

Got faster.

KO'd bigger fighters.

Gained more punch resistance.

And is scared ****less of Blood Testing.



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[Doctor_Tenma]

just wanted to drop the bernard hopkins was ass raping hardcore criminals in jail link.


Hector Macho Camacho

started at 130, knocking guys out at 154 & 160.

Camacho faught bums in the higher weight classes. Commentators weren't even afraid to throw that around. I remember watching Camacho vs. DLH and Larry Merchant saying "He'll probably go beat up on some more 40/ 50 year olds". No offense to Camacho because he was fucking incredible at 130.

[Doctor_Tenma]

But, what you stating has nothing to do with him getting dropped at LW and yet being able to take punches from big strong MWs...

Don't forget, Duran's defense is Top 10 all time.