Foreman, Duran, Pedroza on PED's?

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  • Easy-E
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    #61
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Better than Hagler? Bigger than Hagler and Barkley? Hit harder than Hagler and Barkley?

    And, lets not forget that he fought DeJesus in his prime. Absolute prime and best weight-class. He fought Hagler 10yrs later and Barkley 17yrs later
    Getting dropped could be a result of a miriad of factors besides ability to take a punch. It could have been balance issues, stylistic differences,the speed of his opponent, getting caught with a shot he did not see, conditioning issues and many other things.

    You cannot draw comparisons like that.
    It reminds me of the triangle theory.
    Well Duran got dropped be DeJesus and didnt get dropped by Hagler does that mean he was on PED's?
    Come on. You should be better than that.

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      #62
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Come on Domi? In both fights against DeJesus Duran defense was not as good as Hagler and Barkley?

      Really you telling me Duran geting dropped twice in a spam of 2 fights with DeJesus was he not having defense? But, yet that same guy who started as a Bantamweight went up to MW 20yrs later and took 2 of the biggest hardest hitters MW at the time and took those punches well? Is that what you saying Domi?
      I'm saying he was more defensive. Take Mayweather for example, he got more defensive as he moved up. Join www.worldboxingvideoarchive.com. Go see for yourself. Notice Barkley/ Hagler couldn't land flush and Duran was a master at turning with the punches, then countering.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Adrian 28
        too ****** to follow suit?

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          #64
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          Getting dropped could be a result of a miriad of factors besides ability to take a punch. It could have been balance issues, stylistic differences,the speed of his opponent, getting caught with a shot he did not see, conditioning issues and many other things.

          You cannot draw comparisons like that.
          It reminds me of the triangle theory.
          Well Duran got dropped be DeJesus and didnt get dropped by Hagler does that mean he was on PED's?
          Come on. You should be better than that.
          What is this whole thing about Pac being on PED's because his punch resistance is better? Could it be he took Cotto punches because his balance was better, defense better, he saw Cotto punches coming. Could that be a reason he took Cotto punches and it has nothing to do with PED's. Could that be a reason?

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            #65
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            What is this whole thing about Pac being on PED's because his punch resistance is better? Could it be he took Cotto punches because his balance was better, defense better, he saw Cotto punches coming. Could that be a reason he took Cotto punches and it has nothing to do with PED's. Could that be a reason?
            Im not sure how much Pac possibly taking PED's would affect his punch resistance, that argument does not make much sense to me. Most people who claimed Pac is on steroids (I am not one of them) have claimed because his power has transferred so well moving up in weight.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Easy-E
              Im not sure how much Pac possibly taking PED's would affect his punch resistance, that argument does not make much sense to me. Most people who claimed Pac is on steroids (I am not one of them) have claimed because his power has transferred so well moving up in weight.
              There has been arguments of his punch resistance getting better as proof he is on it. If you listen to like Burner podcast show. You hear him and some people agreeing that him taking Cotto punches is proof that he could be on something... Which I find bogus...

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                #67
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                There has been arguments of his punch resistance getting better as proof he is on it. If you listen to like Burner podcast show. You hear him and some people agreeing that him taking Cotto punches is proof that he could be on something... Which I find bogus...
                I agree that is bogus, but not necessarily because of the commonalities between other fighters, their opponents and the their respective punch resistance.
                Last edited by Easy-E; 01-09-2010, 05:57 PM.

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