Mayweather would DOMINATE Sergio Martinez.

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  • Go Blue
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    #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Bro like real talk what year did he fight Vargas? And, lets not forget that he KO 2 guys at 154 that already had chin softened up by Trinidad.

    Yes Oscar fought the best of abilities. But, he didn't have it anymore. If you coudld not see that I don't know what else to tell you.

    Is ****** to say that Floyd beats Martinez easily at 154 since we really do not know how good Floyd is at that weight. Since he only had 1 fight against an old ass fighter who was way passed his prime.

    Like really what was Oscar prime? I say the moment he beat Rafael Ruelas was the start of his prime. How long ago was that? And, it lasted to what? I say 2001? Even when he fought Mosley in the rematch he was passed his prime. But, the difference is he was a full time fighter. After that fight he became a part time and full time promoter.

    Sergio Martinez is a whole different animal than that version of Oscar... Is not even comparable...
    You still have yet to breakdown how Floyd vs. Martinez goes in the ring..You keep talking about Oscar.

    Floyds resume at 154 is better then Martinez..............that speaks volumes.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Go Blue
      My browser is acting up..I want to respond to jro , jrecking and 2501...

      thats your browser disagreeing with you

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        #33
        Originally posted by Go Blue
        You still have yet to breakdown how Floyd vs. Martinez goes in the ring..You keep talking about Oscar.

        Floyds resume at 154 is better then Martinez..............that speaks volumes.
        Because I can't have a legit boxing conversation with you when you say ****** **** like that...

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        • Go Blue
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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          can i ask a question why do floyd fans always bring up compubox? Do you understand how that works? Do you think is accurate?

          i understand how compubox works...and i dont need compubox to tell me that floyd is the mst accurate fighter in the game..he doesnt waste punches and he barely misses people.


          anyways floyd at 154 has never ever ever fought anybody like martinez matter of floyd has never anybody like martinez period. So it works both ways...


          mayweathers resume at 154 pounds..is better then martinez's..and thats off one fight..martinez hasnt fought anybody with a fifth of the talent floyd has.
          bolded....................

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            #35
            Originally posted by Go Blue
            Martinez fights with his hands low...you can get away with that vs, Sluggers like Williams and Cintron.....Against Floyd that opens the flood gates for a str8 right festival against the south paw Martinez.

            Martinez also is not very accurate and is a wild swinger at times which opens himself up to be countered at will.

            Mayweather is the master of NOT being hit...Sergio is fast but hes not as fast as Floyd is.

            Mayweather would beat him to the punch all night and make him pay for fighting with his hands low.

            Martinez also has bad stamina.....and after about 9 rounds of Chasing Floyd around, getting clinched and hitting air..hell be past tired.

            Mayweather beats the hell out of Martinez.

            9 Rounds to 3....and I'm being generous.

            Just because had success against a guy who struggle with southpaws and didn't have a good game plan or strategy doesn't mean he stands a chance in hell vs. Mayweather.

            Mayweather EASY UD...............9 Rounds to 3.
            mayweather would avoid the fight by saying he's not a big enough draw.

            he probably would win though.

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            • daggum
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              #36
              goes to show that if you keep fighting the least dangerous opponents available you will be unbeatable in the minds of dimwitted fans in all fantasy match ups.

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                #37
                Originally posted by 2501
                Sergio Martinez is a natural 154LBer who happens to be the fastest fighter in that division and in one of the fastest in the sport. He also happens to be a southpaw.

                The 154 Pound Mayweather is the faster fighter at that weight.


                Now, as I've said before, the style that gives crafty, illusive, counterpunching fighters problems is a crafty, illusive counter punching style. This would look something like Judah/Mayweather as in that they would both try to expose ANY error the other makes so there would be a lot of hesitation in the fight.

                There are exceptions.

                Floyd would not be aggressive against Martinez.
                Martinez showed against Cintron, Margarito and Williams that he has a more than decent chin. This would be a fight where Floyd would get on his potshotting game knowing he would not be able to hurt Martinez. Now, you have to look at history and go off of how floyd has fought against bigger fighters. You can't just assume Floyd would knock Sergio out because he's your favorite fighter or what he did in the LOWER weight classes, you have to look at his work at his maximum weight classes against bigger fighters: Baldomir and De La Hoya.

                Against both of them, Floyd was patient, methodical, and conservative. He would fight this way against Martinez. But Martinez is obviously on a different level than clueless, plodding, Baldomir and a slicker, craftier fighter than De La Hoya was. The fact that Martinez drops his hands is useless. He does this to entice aggressive fighters to throw punches so he can counterpunching. Knowing Martinez's speed, do you really believe Floyd would risk throwing a punch and get countered?

                Thats why i said it wouldnt work aginst Floyd.....that **** backfires aginst a guy who wont miss you and can still get out of the way of whatever you throw.

                Mayweather is the KING of adjusting..If Martinez wants to wait....Floyd will pile up points on two punches....Str8 right hand leads...and the jab to the stomach.

                Floyd would wait for Martinez to become offensive so he can counter and score his points.

                No he wouldnt..I explained that above.

                Problem is, Martinez is no bloated, slow lightweight Marquez, nor is he a wild swinging Hatton either. Martinez would not be wild with his punching and contrary to what some people believe, he IS accurate. You have to realize he was somewhat inaccurate against Williams: fatigue. When fatigue sets in, your technique suffers. A Mayweather/Martinez fight would be at a very comfortable pace for Martinez.

                After 8 rounds of chasing Mayweather, awinging and missing....he will be tired...and he aint getting any younger.


                I think Floyd's lack of power at this higher weight would be the deciding factor in this fight as it wouldn't encourage Martinez to back off.

                Mayweather buckled the IRON chinned Oscar at 154...a couple times....Hes not a feather fist...Mayweather isnt Tyson..but opponents dont just rush him because the punch YOU DONT ...see coming is the one that puts you on ur ass.
                If you watch the Martinez/Cintron fight, you'll see that Martinez was somewhat awkward with Cintron. Cintron was counterpunching that night and he's not necessarily a slow puncher. But the reason why he was having trouble was that Cintron is a power puncher.

                He dominated Cintron...Cintron is a one dimensional one handed fighter.

                Martinez had to be very cautious with his offense because of Cintron's pop.

                Floyd's shoulder roll defense would be useless against Martinez the southpaw. Martinez has a WAY better jab then Oscar and we've seen that Floyd is susceptible to a fast jab.

                Nope..Floyd is susceptible to an accurate Jab. And we cant keep comparing what Martinez and Oscar do without looking at what skills, relexes and timing floyd brings to the table...your really selling the most talented fighter on the planet short here.

                I just don't see Martinez being hesitant like Floyd's previous opponents because of his physical attributes such as his speed and power and the savvy he's acquired in the ring.

                Like I said people are hesistant aginst Floyd because hes hard to hit..so you have to make ur punches count...hes the king of countering and hes lightinging fast and laser accurate......That still stands.

                I can see Floyd getting hurt in this fighter. I think he's a better fighter, but Martinez would have a respectable physical advantage (speed, power, size, athleticism) coupled with decent ring knowledge would take the fight.

                He is not faster then Floyd...or more athletic. But he is slower...easy to hit....had bad stamina....and is not very smart...as eveidence by his wild swinging.

                MD Martinez
                Floyd UD...9 rounds to 3.

                Once Floyd figures you out...you might as well pack up the team and warm up the bus.

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                • whirlwind
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Go Blue
                  Martinez fights with his hands low...you can get away with that vs, Sluggers like Williams and Cintron.....Against Floyd that opens the flood gates for a str8 right festival against the south paw Martinez.

                  Martinez also is not very accurate and is a wild swinger at times which opens himself up to be countered at will.

                  Mayweather is the master of NOT being hit...Sergio is fast but hes not as fast as Floyd is.

                  Mayweather would beat him to the punch all night and make him pay for fighting with his hands low.

                  Martinez also has bad stamina.....and after about 9 rounds of Chasing Floyd around, getting clinched and hitting air..hell be past tired.

                  Mayweather beats the hell out of Martinez.

                  9 Rounds to 3....and I'm being generous.

                  Just because had success against a guy who struggle with southpaws and didn't have a good game plan or strategy doesn't mean he stands a chance in hell vs. Mayweather.

                  Mayweather EASY UD...............9 Rounds to 3.
                  Another COULDA, WOULDA, SHOULDA! At this point of his career, He wants only 135-140 fighters (R. Hatton, JMM, M. Hatton) to fights at 147.

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                  • zeidrich
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                    #39
                    the wouldve couldve threads are back!

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                    • GoAltYourFace
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                      #40
                      no need of breakdown, floyd will sodomize martinez because floyd is the #1 p4p at fantasy match ups, it's all fantasy!

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