Mayweather would DOMINATE Sergio Martinez.

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    #21
    I think Martinez would do pretty well and since he's a southpaw he may buzz him good like Corley did, and win some rounds.

    I feel it would be closer than people think, especially early.

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    • jrosales13
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      #22
      Originally posted by Go Blue
      He fought Oscar DEFENSIVELY.........and Oscar had his HANDS covering his face.

      Sergio has his HANDS at his waist......and hes very easy to hit.

      Martinez does not have the skills, talent or footspeed to doge Floyds punches with his hands at his waist....

      Mayweather is light years faster then anyone hes EVER fought.

      Mayweather would pot shot him.....and when he puts his hands at his waist...Floyd will shoot str8 rights until Sergios head is spinning....

      You dont fight the most accurate fighter since Compubox was invented with your hands at your waist....

      LMAO.
      Can I ask a question why do Floyd fans always bring up compubox? Do you understand how that works? Do you think is accurate?

      Anyways Floyd at 154 has never ever ever fought anybody like Martinez matter of Floyd has never anybody like Martinez period. So it works both ways...

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      • Telepath
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        #23
        Originally posted by Go Blue
        Did Oscar look shot to you against Floyd???
        Yes, he did. His timing was off and his stamina was poor. And still he wasn't shut out.

        In other news, a prime Oscar would have murdered Mayweather.

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          #24
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          No he does not... WTF are you talking about? Again are you talking about P4P sense or at 154? P4P yes Oscar hits harder. But, at 154 no he does not. Martinez has the power over him, Martinez is also faster, this version of Martionez had more skills than that version of Oscar, had better reflexes better agility, quicker feet, is fresher, more ability, and then to top it off Martinez is a southpaw you can not really compare the two...

          I swear that version of Oscar is so damn overrated. Is crazy how people think he was still the same Oscar of the 90's. GTFOH with that ****... they forget that Ivan Calderon was boxing his ears off in sparring... Like really Calderon was embarrassing this guy cuz he didn't have it anymore. But, people make it out to seem like he still was a top fighter. No he was just a name that was all he was. He was not even full time fighter anymore. He was part time fighter full time promoter. He was not fighting to prove greatness. He was fighting for his company and checks. The hunger was gone by then. Why act like he was still good?
          Did Oscar not just Knock Mayo and Vargas the **** out cold?

          Who has Sergio KO'd at 154???

          No one said Oscar was in his prime against Floyd...but he didn't look like ****....

          Oscar fought his ASS off against Floyd.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Telepath
            Yes, he did. His timing was off and his stamina was poor. And still he wasn't shut out.

            In other news, a prime Oscar would have murdered Mayweather.

            I think it's fair to say Martinez at this point is much quicker than DLH was when he fought Mayweather.

            DLH was winning some early rounds but Mayweather's speed was too great late.

            I think Sergio is a lot quicker, and he's a southpaw, which could make it very interesting.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Go Blue
              Did Oscar not just Knock Mayo and Vargas the **** out cold?

              Who has Sergio KO'd at 154???

              No one said Oscar was in his prime against Floyd...but he didn't look like ****....

              Oscar fought his ASS off against Floyd.

              Bro like real talk what year did he fight Vargas? And, lets not forget that he KO 2 guys at 154 that already had chin softened up by Trinidad.

              Yes Oscar fought the best of abilities. But, he didn't have it anymore. If you coudld not see that I don't know what else to tell you.

              Is ****** to say that Floyd beats Martinez easily at 154 since we really do not know how good Floyd is at that weight. Since he only had 1 fight against an old ass fighter who was way passed his prime.

              Like really what was Oscar prime? I say the moment he beat Rafael Ruelas was the start of his prime. How long ago was that? And, it lasted to what? I say 2001? Even when he fought Mosley in the rematch he was passed his prime. But, the difference is he was a full time fighter. After that fight he became a part time and full time promoter.

              Sergio Martinez is a whole different animal than that version of Oscar... Is not even comparable...

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              • daggum
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                #27
                oscar was in his prime when he fought floyd! cause we all know how prime oscar plodded forward with no boxing skills and just looked to corner his opponents and throw flurries.

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                  #28
                  Sergio Martinez is a natural 154LBer who happens to be the fastest fighter in that division and in one of the fastest in the sport. He also happens to be a southpaw.

                  Now, as I've said before, the style that gives crafty, illusive, counterpunching fighters problems is a crafty, illusive counter punching style. This would look something like Judah/Mayweather as in that they would both try to expose ANY error the other makes so there would be a lot of hesitation in the fight.

                  There are exceptions.

                  Floyd would not be aggressive against Martinez. Martinez showed against Cintron, Margarito and Williams that he has a more than decent chin. This would be a fight where Floyd would get on his potshotting game knowing he would not be able to hurt Martinez. Now, you have to look at history and go off of how floyd has fought against bigger fighters. You can't just assume Floyd would knock Sergio out because he's your favorite fighter or what he did in the LOWER weight classes, you have to look at his work at his maximum weight classes against bigger fighters: Baldomir and De La Hoya.

                  Against both of them, Floyd was patient, methodical, and conservative. He would fight this way against Martinez. But Martinez is obviously on a different level than clueless, plodding, Baldomir and a slicker, craftier fighter than De La Hoya was. The fact that Martinez drops his hands is useless. He does this to entice aggressive fighters to throw punches so he can counterpunching. Knowing Martinez's speed, do you really believe Floyd would risk throwing a punch and get countered?

                  Floyd would wait for Martinez to become offensive so he can counter and score his points. Problem is, Martinez is no bloated, slow lightweight Marquez, nor is he a wild swinging Hatton either. Martinez would not be wild with his punching and contrary to what some people believe, he IS accurate. You have to realize he was somewhat inaccurate against Williams: fatigue. When fatigue sets in, your technique suffers. A Mayweather/Martinez fight would be at a very comfortable pace for Martinez.

                  I think Floyd's lack of power at this higher weight would be the deciding factor in this fight as it wouldn't encourage Martinez to back off. If you watch the Martinez/Cintron fight, you'll see that Martinez was somewhat awkward with Cintron. Cintron was counterpunching that night and he's not necessarily a slow puncher. But the reason why he was having trouble was that Cintron is a power puncher. Martinez had to be very cautious with his offense because of Cintron's pop.

                  Floyd's shoulder roll defense would be useless against Martinez the southpaw. Martinez has a WAY better jab then Oscar and we've seen that Floyd is susceptible to a fast jab. I just don't see Martinez being hesitant like Floyd's previous opponents because of his physical attributes such as his speed and power and the savvy he's acquired in the ring. I can see Floyd getting hurt in this fighter. I think he's a better fighter, but Martinez would have a respectable physical advantage (speed, power, size, athleticism) coupled with decent ring knowledge would take the fight.

                  MD Martinez

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                  • Levcon8686
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                    #29
                    Agree with TS completely. Martinez would get outboxed. Sergio had success against a pressure fighter who isn't all that accurate and isn't all that hard to hit. And even at that, he was only really tagging Williams properly in the first 4-5 rounds. His accuracy went way down towards the end of the fight. I don't know how people come up with ''Sergio would drop Floyd''. Mayweather-Martinez would be one of those where you get to the eighth round and you know the more polished boxer is gonna win a decision, despite the best efforts of the lesser skilled fighter.

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                      #30
                      My browser is acting up..I want to respond to jro , jrecking and 2501...

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