Comments Thread For: Mayweather Will Have To Drop Demands To Get Pacquiao

[rjack58]

The thing about the DEFAMATION SUIT IS...the DEFENDANT Team Mayweather can REQUEST RANDOM drug tests as a defense against the pending LAWSUIT which PLAYS right into the hands of Team Mayweather. So filing a lawsuit DOES NOTHING to block RANDOM DRUG testing it MERELY MANDATES the test!! NO LAWSUIT will be FILED Pacquiao is BLUFFING!!

[check hook]

objective? cmon dude, i have the feeling that it's floyd jr. himself writing the blog.

I did say it prob has 'inherent bias" and was 'reasonalby' objective.

[fcastro1]

But it was alright with you that the Pac camp dictated the Cotto fight with every concesion that only benefitted Pac?

what concessions? 1 pound under the weight cotto fought at previously. catchweights are a part of boxing and has been done before, this is new to boxing.

[ace2ace234]

its amazing as soon as someone ask's a legit question it does'nt get answered I see someone asked earlier in this thread where does pac say he is afraid of needles???? and surprize surprize it doesnt get answered or the alledged quote posted.....unreal I asked the other day
Which is more effective blood or urine test's?(and you know what the thread went on for a further 20+ pages and the best answer was 'Urine test does not detect HGH' !!!!!) amazing I swear none of you ever had any contact with a pro sport ...o.k so let me run with this lets suppose this boxing scene FACT is true let me ask another question which surprisingly was not answered after 20+pages....I wonder why???? How can HGH benifit a boxer????
If anybody can answer this with legit knowledge i will be well impressed..... HGH is for speedy recovery it does not benifit a boxer at all it benifit's pro's who need to recover quickly..ie basketball players,baseball players..etc who play whole season's....
Honest to god how you people jump on things is incredible I believe its the 2 camps ruining this fight and not the boxer's both manny and floyd want this fight....arum,roach,mayweatehr sr and schaffer are dong a great job of ****ing it up......

[Haglerwins]

The thing about the DEFAMATION SUIT IS...the DEFENDANT Team Mayweather can REQUEST RANDOM drug tests as a defense against the pending LAWSUIT which PLAYS right into the hands of Team Mayweather. So filing a lawsuit DOES NOTHING to block RANDOM DRUG testing it MERELY MANDATES the test!! NO LAWSUIT will be FILED Pacquiao is BLUFFING!!

Are you a lawyer?

Link??????

[TOBYLEE1]

what concessions? 1 pound under the weight cotto fought at previously. catchweights are a part of boxing and has been done before, this is new to boxing.

I do agree that the testing shouldn't be done so close to the fight. But scheduling your next fight at the WW limit when fighting the last fight for a title at 145 lb sounds hypocritical to me. On top of that now there is talks of fighting at 154 for a title, then you tell me how this sounds.

[Boxing's Truth]

Jesus Manny and Arum are pissing me off.

A chronological order of events (as i see it):

- Mayweather announces his comeback before the Ricky Hatton v Pacman (at their presser) fight against none other than....you guessed it JMM. Likely a premeditated call out by JMM and GBP.

- Pac dominates Hatton

- Floyd domintaes JMM

- Hype for PBF vs Pac begins.

- Pac beats Cotto. Mayweather Sr is ringside to assess the fight first hand. Its around this time Sr becomes more vocal re Pac and PED's.

- Immedietely after the cotto vs pac fight PBF is on british tv talking about how easy he will whip Pac for a full 30 minutes.

- Mayweather and crew ask golden boy to get the ball rolling on a fight. Ellerbe, Haymon and Floyd recuse themselves from direct negotiations with Arum and team to avoid bad blood.

- An initial date is slated in May to coincide with Cinco de Mayo. Roach runs his mouth about his belief Mayweather will be difficult in negotiations and will price himself out of the fight. He thinks Manny will need to change his style to be ready for Mayweather and quote " needs Pac to see what i see."

- Date is rejected by Pac, given his desire to run for a congressional seat in native Phillipines.

- A March 13th date is floated by Top Rank (correct me if im wrong on that 1). Roach runs his mouth saying Floyd will not accept that date so they have a fight with Foreman lined up @ 154.

- Mayweather accepts the date. Roach runs his mouth some more about how he would like Manny to have more time to prepare for Floyds style and how the fight will not go ahead if Floyd is even 1 pound heavier than 147 limit.

- Contract negotiations become more in depth. The weight of 147 is agreed upon, as is standard 8 oz gloves for the fight. Fighters can choose the brand.
Billing is also negotiated with Mayweathers name first for promotional purposes. 50/50 is also agreed upon fairly quickly.

- Random USADA testing is requested by GBP as a contract clause in the fight for both fighters. Things go pear shaped very quickly from this point onwards. Top Rank and Pac immedietely decline citing various reasons. Top Ranks wants a $10 mil per pound penalty for each pound over 147 limit. Team May promptly accepts.

side note: some have stated randomised testing was included in the initial draft of contract negotiations. I'm not sure if thats true---> link from someone would be useful.


Reasons cited by team Pac members to justify refusal of testing:

- Manny is afraid of needles. This is quickly debunked give his tattoos (apparently he snacks whilst getting new artwork) and calm demeanour in giving blood previously.

- Manny is superstitious and beleives giving blood so close to a fight will weaken him. Apparently he believes this so much he needs a 30 day window of no blood testing to recover. Note: he gave blood 14-24 days prior to Hatton fight. Essentially they want a set schedule.

- Roach says it will be disruptive to training. Does he know other athletes get tested mid competition??

- Ariza (in all his wisdom) comes out and says Manny has no idea what he is being given and he takes full responsibility for all that Pac takes.

- etc etc.

- Pac files a lawsuit for defamation/slander/blah/blah blah against Floyd sr, Floyd jr and GBP.


- Top Rank starts lining up Malignaggi as a potential opponent for Pac even though he has been very vocal in his belieft that Manny is on PED's.

- in the last few days Lining up Foreman @ 154 like the original plan

- Team mayweather says they are willing to come to a compromise on cut-off days + testing agency....as long as testing is random in nature.

- Team Pac's response......for the fight to happen they need to drop random blood testing and apologise to Pac.



My interpretation of these events:

Everything Mayweather has done since coming out of retirement has been an effort to build a big money fight with Pac. Choice of opponents and timing of interviews and announcements is testament to this......as is his quick acceptance of terms floted by team Pac.

Pac given his actions either:

- does not want to fight floyd at all.

- is taking something he maybe should not be and does not want to fight anyone if random testing is involved.

I would like to point out i am a PBF fan so my interpretation may have some inherent bias....but still think it is reasnoably objective and the conclusions i have drawn are pretty clear @ this point given the actions of both Team May and team Pac.

Bravisimo!!! You just saved me a few minutes of my time trying to sum this bull**** up. Good post.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

fight aint happening. come on arum is asking now for everybody to apologize lol

I agree, thats way over the top. They won't do it and this fight probably wont ever happen now because it looks like Manny has something to hide.

[GRUSTLER]

Sounds like another obstacles Top Rank has put in the way of this
fight so it won't happen. Public apologies? From everyone? What
is this public school? This is supposed to be a Boxing match being
put together not a miss America contest. Sheeeeesh........ LAME.

[DocG]

The thing about the DEFAMATION SUIT IS...the DEFENDANT Team Mayweather can REQUEST RANDOM drug tests as a defense against the pending LAWSUIT which PLAYS right into the hands of Team Mayweather. So filing a lawsuit DOES NOTHING to block RANDOM DRUG testing it MERELY MANDATES the test!! NO LAWSUIT will be FILED Pacquiao is BLUFFING!!

Are you dumb???

How can Team Mayweather demand a random drug test in court when their is no fight?!!!

The Court cannot demand a random drug test coz it's against self incrimination.....all Pacquiao's got to do is present his previous drug test which are all negative! Pac can even have his blood tested in court which he will surely pass!!!