Pac fans, which is better?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Mike Hawk
    Contender
    Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
    • Nov 2009
    • 415
    • 12
    • 5
    • 6,519

    #11
    the regular method was the lesser method.......

    i dont think people going for pac are going for the lesser method....but for the regular method.....there wasnt anything wrong with it technically.....

    Comment

    • Red_Menace
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Mar 2005
      • 1427
      • 44
      • 120
      • 7,977

      #12
      Originally posted by Akinapepemo
      Well without getting too elaborate, the NSAC is the authority on the matter, certainly they have jurisdiction, not the USADA. that being said, they could use a thing or two from better tests and methods employed by the USADA.
      Actually, WADA and by extension the USADA are the authority on drug testing. They are the official international standard for drug testing in sport. The NSAC regulates combat sport in Nevada, but that doesn't mean their drug testing program is adequate. And they couldn't "use a thing or two from better tests and methods employed by the USADA", they could use the whole damned thing. The program is designed very carefully. Anything less would be an inferior program.

      Comment

      • jrosales13
        undisputed champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Sep 2008
        • 32632
        • 739
        • 763
        • 40,023

        #13
        Originally posted by cixthree
        but why even go there? Nothing else in the negotiation was a mandatory or commission problem. Ans if boxing were to use this method of testing, why don't the 2 biggest in the sport get it going? Its just very strange to me thw this is a problem. The commish had nothing o do with negotiations but Now?
        Negotiation is purse split that is not under the commission jurisdiction. See everything is that gets negotiated is not under the commission jurisdiction but drug testing is. I am baffled that people don't understand. You are comparing apple and oranges here. You comparing negotiations with stuff does is not under the commission jurisdiction to something that is.

        And, why would you make it for this fight? Why not for Oscar-Floyd? Was the not the biggest fight of the sport? That was just 2 and a half years ago. Why not make a big deal then? What if it gets done but then it does not become a mandatory and then we never random blood testing again. All this **** was for nothing. However, I would rather them go to the commission make a case on why it should it be mandatory. Get it as mandatory. Then everybody will be doing it. It will be fair for everybody. And, people can stop bitching...

        Comment

        • Red_Menace
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Mar 2005
          • 1427
          • 44
          • 120
          • 7,977

          #14
          Originally posted by Mike Hawk
          the regular method was the lesser method.......

          i dont think people going for pac are going for the lesser method....but for the regular method.....there wasnt anything wrong with it technically.....
          Actually, there are things wrong with it, technically. They don't test for hGH and they notify the athletes ahead of time when they are going to collect samples. Doesn't sound like much, but it makes a big difference.

          Comment

          • cixthree
            I love Manny Pacquaio
            • Nov 2008
            • 2221
            • 152
            • 0
            • 8,387

            #15
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Has Mayweather come overweight for a fight?

            Has Pac failed a drug test.
            see your the type that the question is for. You seem against better and random testing. Why and why not now? This is the biggest fight we have, on the biggest stage. These guys can change and clean thi sport now!

            Comment

            • Red_Menace
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Mar 2005
              • 1427
              • 44
              • 120
              • 7,977

              #16
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Negotiation is purse split that is not under the commission jurisdiction. See everything is that gets negotiated is not under the commission jurisdiction but drug testing is. I am baffled that people don't understand. You are comparing apple and oranges here. You comparing negotiations with stuff does is not under the commission jurisdiction to something that is.

              And, why would you make it for this fight? Why not for Oscar-Floyd? Was the not the biggest fight of the sport? That was just 2 and a half years ago. Why not make a big deal then? What if it gets done but then it does not become a mandatory and then we never random blood testing again. All this **** was for nothing. However, I would rather them go to the commission make a case on why it should it be mandatory. Get it as mandatory. Then everybody will be doing it. It will be fair for everybody. And, people can stop bitching...
              The executive director of the NSAC said, in a video interview posted on this forum, that he had no problem with athletes negotiating for additional drug testing, as long as the testing required by NSAC was covered. So, sorry, there was absolutely nothing wrong with what Floyd requested and they were not circumventing the authority of the NSAC.

              Comment

              • jrosales13
                undisputed champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Sep 2008
                • 32632
                • 739
                • 763
                • 40,023

                #17
                Originally posted by Red_Menace
                So basically this all boils down to Pac having a fragile ego? He needs to know he's the one in charge and calling all the shots. That's what this is?

                You're right about the urine test.
                I don't get why people act so surprise to find out Pac has a huge ego... This man twice demanded a bigger share of the purse split against Hatton and Oscar. Yes he has an ego and yes he is not going to let Floyd demand ****. That is how he is, he feels he is the man, and he is running ****. But, at the end what I don't get is why everybody is upset at the boxer and not the commission? Is not Manny fault that the NSAC drug testing inadequate, nobody was complaining about the NSAC drug testing 2 months ago. Everybody was fine with Pac taking it 2 months ago. But, now is a big deal. If the commission had random blood testing in place we wouldn't be talking about this right now. Instead of focusing on the fighter why not focus on the commission? If us boxing fans are so upset about this. Why not send letters and emails to the commission demanding they get random blood testing as a mandatory. But, no fans don't want to that. Because, in reality fans don't care. They rather get in front of a computer and hate on a fighter or try to be in flame wars.

                Comment

                • jrosales13
                  undisputed champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 32632
                  • 739
                  • 763
                  • 40,023

                  #18
                  Originally posted by cixthree
                  see your the type that the question is for. You seem against better and random testing. Why and why not now? This is the biggest fight we have, on the biggest stage. These guys can change and clean thi sport now!
                  No they can not... what makes you think that? Again why not have random blood testing for Oscar-Floyd? that was the biggest money fight of all time and it was 2 and a half years ago. Was you asking this question then?

                  Comment

                  • jrosales13
                    undisputed champion
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 32632
                    • 739
                    • 763
                    • 40,023

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Red_Menace
                    The executive director of the NSAC said, in a video interview posted on this forum, that he had no problem with athletes negotiating for additional drug testing, as long as the testing required by NSAC was covered. So, sorry, there was absolutely nothing wrong with what Floyd requested and they were not circumventing the authority of the NSAC.
                    But, why take two different drug tests? Is the commission in charge of paying the fighters? Is the commission in charge of drug testing?

                    Comment

                    • Red_Menace
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1427
                      • 44
                      • 120
                      • 7,977

                      #20
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      But, why take two different drug tests? Is the commission in charge of paying the fighters? Is the commission in charge of drug testing?
                      They wouldn't be taking two. The USADA testing would cover the requirements of the NSAC testing.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP