The Shoulder Roll: Toney or Mayweather?

[markkerr101]

he rolls. just that he gets hit more than mayweather hahha

[intoccabile]

What Hernandez? Either way he didnt get hit much in either fight. The point though is that I said a "prime". he wasnt in his prime at that time. I said that he's mastered it now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7ZaVdXMms&feature=related

This 1.. in round 3-4-5 he tries to trade and is getting hit a LOT.
One of my fav fights of floyds.. when he got his hand hurt tho, he got on the bike, nothing wrong with that, but killed the momentum of the fight.

Got his nose busted bad and had his eye swelled pretty good.

[Allucard]

Based on his lack of competition? He makes it look good because his opponents suck, lol. Toney faced elites and used it to great effect.

Listen here *****. Pacquiao has been feeding on Mayweather's LEFTOVERS for the past 3 years and he we all know most likely he was aided by something in his bloodstream. How dare you say Floyd opponents suck when Manny has faced his leftovers?! And to beat Oscar not only he needed the roids but he needed Oscar drained of any boxing life. Way to go *******.

Btw you probably didn't even know Toney used a shoulder roll too and you most likely aren't sure who he is.

[Anti~Jalandoni]

Watch Toney vs Iran Barkley for the best demonstration of the shoulder roll. That said, Floyds mastered his craft and his record speaks for itself. I'd say floyd, but I'd also say floyds the better fighter overrall as well.

good call.....never watched that...

[DAN916]

Toney... it looks more impressive at his lighter weightrs but still keeps him from getting his head taken at heavyweight.

[Suckmedry]

Both use it differently to great effect, however I think Toney counters a bit more fluidly out of it, but like I said different ways.

[Suckmedry]

Based on his lack of competition? He makes it look good because his opponents suck, lol. Toney faced elites and used it to great effect.

This is becoming really absurd. The way people are talking now you would think Floyd has never fought a fighter with a winning record. Really, it's ridiculous.

[Andrew Cuff V2]

No way in hell those cats hit him clean. That doesnt mean they wont win. Some of them can just throw 4 punhces to his 1 but they arent hitting him clean at all. Pryor & Chavez? No way. Those guys swing super wide. Youre not hitting Floyd with that wide ass ****. I just dont see any of them doing it, maybe for the exception of Duran who is a beast all around but those other guys cant.

JMM KO a Diaz & Casamayor who have never came close to being stopped. He got rocked but JMM always gets rocked because his D sucks. There aint no one at WW that is going to stop him from landing like Floyd did. Just like Mosley is the worst matchup in boxing for Margarito. Floyd is also the worst matchup in boxing for JMM. I still thought JMM looked way better than people think but Floyd just didnt give him a real chance to show it. I think his speed was way better than people say, I think he had nice pop as he did catch Floyd with like 2 nice shots, and his counter punching was on point like always, only Floyd wasnt going to commit because of it

No one on that list hits him clean? LOL.

1. Duran was virtually unbeatable at LW, generally regarded at the best at 135lb ever, yet he's not going to tag Floyd clean?

2. Chavez was one of the most accurate punchers EVER, his straight rights were timed perfectly.

3. Pryor was a great boxer when he wanted to control his style more (beat Hearns in the ams, and narrowly missed the Olympic team due to a dodgy decision by all accounts).

4. Arguello was a master boxer with great accuracy.



Everyone gets tagged. Floyd has before now and all of those fighters above would tag him cleanly.

[General Zod]

That fight is a magnificent example of boxing skill.

Watching that fight amazes me and saddens me at the same time, just imagine what Toney coulkd of achieved if he was more disciplined. Another great fight was Toney McCallum I amazing fight havent seen a fight with that much skill in ages.

[General Zod]

Floyd Mayweather, no question. Trust me, I'm unbiased!

I would have to say Toney, he mixes a lot of the Trunk dips in with it, like Archie Moore did against Ali. He also can use it against southpaws see the Toney Robinson fight. On the other hand Floyd uses the high guard defence against southpaws, so I have to say Toney.