If you thought Freddie Roach was wrong about HGH in Urine & Blood......

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blood test is the most efficent for hgh??? hardly but its what the olympics use... fact random testing means your the most effective way is for year around testing for blood.. not just an a set amount of time....
olympic style blood testing is done year round. People train for years to make the olympics are have to go though testing over that whole period of time. Thats how random blood testing is most effective. THey rarley take blood before competition but rely on urine as well. They take blood after competition as well. Its been said by Victor Conte that HGH is pointless and some other doctor already said that HGH is dangerous taken before a fight.

The real threat is EPO which there is an effective urine test for. People are confusing the two. I dont think a fighter even wants HGH in their system right before any fight. EPO is for stamina. HGH is supposed be for

The biggest benefit an athlete gets from using HGH is its anabolic effects on the connective tissue within muscles.[4] These effects “may promote resistance to injury or faster repair [but] would make the muscle no more capable of force generation”.[4] HGH can make an athlete better equipped to avoid or recover from a sports injury.

Any fighter would benefit from HGH during training not during a fight. It is not like a stimulant. EPO is the stamina one that Victor Conte suggests and is even trying to mimic as he is working with a couple of boxers.

But if you are an athlete that is training for a competition over a long time, HGH is helpful in that it helps repair stuff. I dont see how the difference between what Manny Pacquiao request of 30 days planned out sandwiched between the original blood test when the fight is supposedly announced then followed by the end of fight blood test would even have enough time to benefit him by using HGH. EPO I could see that.

Blood test are inconclusive when it comes to HGH test. That's why you don't see athletes getting caught with HGH. You also have to combine with anabolic steroids to build muscles. There is not a single publlished research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance.

The best way to detect EPO is urine test. That's the gold standard.
Theres has been new drug like EPO precursor that needs a blood test to detect it. However if they do blood test right after the fight, if someone is using EPO precursor than their Hemoglobin and Hematocrit will be abnormally elevated. There's no way our normal erythropoeitin can do that.

Random urine test will detect steroids. They have to make random, not only after the fight.

The best way for drug is year round not in a specific set of time, athletes usually get caught when they least expected it.

Floyd's demand are unnecessary. Pac suggestion is sufficient enough.

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Blood test are inconclusive when it comes to HGH test. That's why you don't see athletes getting caught with HGH. You also have to combine with anabolic steroids to build muscles. There is not a single publlished research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance.

The best way to detect EPO is urine test. That's the gold standard.
Theres has been new drug like EPO precursor that needs a blood test to detect it. However if they do blood test right after the fight, if someone is using EPO precursor than their Hemoglobin and Hematocrit will be abnormally elevated. There's no way our normal erythropoeitin can do that.

Random urine test will detect steroids. They have to make random, not only after the fight.

The best way for drug is year round not in a specific set of time, athletes usually get caught when they least expected it.

Floyd's demand are unnecessary. Pac suggestion is sufficient enough.

huh?

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huh?

People are usually get suckered by all those Internet sites that sell and market them. The gimmick starts with facts like how HGH build muscles and anti-aging then they will add wonderful words like it makes you stronger to miscontrued it to the end.

The bottomline is where is tht published research study that shows HGH enhance athletic performance.

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we have to play by freddie's rules and win titles at catch weights lol

[Monte Cristo]

Blood test are inconclusive when it comes to HGH test. That's why you don't see athletes getting caught with HGH. You also have to combine with anabolic steroids to build muscles. There is not a single publlished research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance.

The best way to detect EPO is urine test. That's the gold standard.
Theres has been new drug like EPO precursor that needs a blood test to detect it. However if they do blood test right after the fight, if someone is using EPO precursor than their Hemoglobin and Hematocrit will be abnormally elevated. There's no way our normal erythropoeitin can do that.

Random urine test will detect steroids. They have to make random, not only after the fight.

The best way for drug is year round not in a specific set of time, athletes usually get caught when they least expected it.

Floyd's demand are unnecessary. Pac suggestion is sufficient enough.

There is not a single publlished research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance

Bottomline is that they do help athletes and thats why they take them.
What many baseball players have been doing since taking them is amazing. They just win MVPs and Cy Youngs and become the best athlete in their sport.

Is that not enough to know about HGH then I don't know what is.

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There is not a single publlished research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance

Bottomline is that they do help athletes and thats why they take them.
What many baseball players have been doing since taking them is amazing. They just win MVPs and Cy Youngs and become the best athlete in their sport.

Is that not enough to know about HGH then I don't know what is.

Athletes who used them that was documented like Marion Jones and Chinese athletes combined it with anabolic steroids to build muscle and repair injured tissue. I think most MLB players on steroid era used them too.

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[CENTER] YOU WERE RIGHT!!!!

Freddie Roach -"There is NO Saliva, blood, or urine test that can detect HGH or growth hormones"

PLEASE READ VERY CAREFULLY SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT STEROIDS:


This article is based on this (facts)
http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hgh.html

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USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:

A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

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