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  • el boxeo
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
    2003? Are you serious?

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    • cherokee
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
      2003? Are you serious?
      well, find me an recent study that gives CONCLUSIVE evidence and findings that Blood test is the ONLY, i mean ONLY way to detect EPO

      I'd be happy to read it....I read one dated 2007 and it still says that HGH is still difficult to detect via blood test

      as far as I know, and this is by no means an expert opinion as I am not expert on this, experts (not boxing fans) are still split about this...

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      • DoubleMM
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        #13
        Originally posted by cherokee
        well, find me an recent study that gives CONCLUSIVE evidence and findings that Blood test is the ONLY, i mean ONLY way to detect EPO

        I'd be happy to read it....I read one dated 2007 and it still says that HGH is still difficult to detect via blood test

        as far as I know, and this is by no means an expert opinion as I am not expert on this, experts (not boxing fans) are still split about this...
        Blood test is the most EFFICIENT. What don't you get about that? RANDOM ones at that. Pacquiao wants to know when the tests are coming. THIS is the issue. Jesus christ some people.

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        • cherokee
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          #14
          thanks. I have very limited knowledge about this that any interesting read will be appreciated

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          • DoubleMM
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            #15
            Originally posted by cherokee
            thanks. I have very limited knowledge about this that any interesting read will be appreciated
            So why are you even arguing?

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            • Marduke
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              #16
              Originally posted by DoubleMM
              So why are you even arguing?
              Why are you arguing? You don't know jack **** except what you read on the INTERNET.

              Everyone just needs to admit they don't know what the **** they are talking about, and are just repeating what they read after a Google search.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #17
                Originally posted by cherokee
                well, find me an recent study that gives CONCLUSIVE evidence and findings that Blood test is the ONLY, i mean ONLY way to detect EPO

                I'd be happy to read it....I read one dated 2007 and it still says that HGH is still difficult to detect via blood test

                as far as I know, and this is by no means an expert opinion as I am not expert on this, experts (not boxing fans) are still split about this...
                You aren't the 1st by the way. I'm seeing alot of people make this mistake. It's that when it comes to drug testing, atleast a 2009 article, I mean we're on our way to 2010. Honestly, I don't know much about the whole EPO thing, I'd have to do some reasearch but check this out, it's interesting...

                This is from 2009, Urine is better in some cases

                September 1st, 2009

                Ask the Doc: With steroid and HGH testing, is blood or urine best?

                Abstract:

                There is a new and promising HGH urine test that was developed at George Mason University. The new test uses nanotechnology to bind and amplify HGH in urine so that it may be detectable for a longer period of time. Blood screening can only detect HGH taken within the previous 24 to 48 hours. Nanotechnology may allow urine detection out to that two-week range.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #18
                  Thanks alot man.

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                  • el boxeo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DoubleMM
                    Blood test is the most EFFICIENT. What don't you get about that? RANDOM ones at that. Pacquiao wants to know when the tests are coming. THIS is the issue. Jesus christ some people.
                    blood test is the most efficent for hgh??? hardly but its what the olympics use... fact random testing means your the most effective way is for year around testing for blood.. not just an a set amount of time....

                    olympic style blood testing is done year round. People train for years to make the olympics are have to go though testing over that whole period of time. Thats how random blood testing is most effective. THey rarley take blood before competition but rely on urine as well. They take blood after competition as well. Its been said by Victor Conte that HGH is pointless and some other doctor already said that HGH is dangerous taken before a fight.

                    The real threat is EPO which there is an effective urine test for. People are confusing the two. I dont think a fighter even wants HGH in their system right before any fight. EPO is for stamina. HGH is supposed be for

                    The biggest benefit an athlete gets from using HGH is its anabolic effects on the connective tissue within muscles.[4] These effects “may promote resistance to injury or faster repair [but] would make the muscle no more capable of force generation”.[4] HGH can make an athlete better equipped to avoid or recover from a sports injury.

                    Any fighter would benefit from HGH during training not during a fight. It is not like a stimulant. EPO is the stamina one that Victor Conte suggests and is even trying to mimic as he is working with a couple of boxers.

                    But if you are an athlete that is training for a competition over a long time, HGH is helpful in that it helps repair stuff. I dont see how the difference between what Manny Pacquiao request of 30 days planned out sandwiched between the original blood test when the fight is supposedly announced then followed by the end of fight blood test would even have enough time to benefit him by using HGH. EPO I could see that.

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                    • Cash Cow
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Marduke
                      Why are you arguing? You don't know jack **** except what you read on the INTERNET.

                      Everyone just needs to admit they don't know what the **** they are talking about, and are just repeating what they read after a Google search.




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