If you thought Freddie Roach was wrong about HGH in Urine & Blood......

[Guest]

How much money would it take for people to drink another's urine?

Like 100k? a mil? 10 MIL?

Man, I could never do it no matter what but if I saw 10 mil cash, I'd be thinking.:TIMER:

[Walt Liquor]

How much money would it take for people to drink another's urine?

Like 100k? a mil? 10 MIL?

Man, I could never do it no matter what but if I saw 10 mil cash, I'd be thinking.:TIMER:

if that person just drank a bottle of remy xo, FOR FREE!!!!

[Red_Menace]

Quotes from the experts at the USADA and WADA and surprisingly no intelligent posts to refute what they're saying. What a surprise.

[Marduke]

Quotes from the experts at the USADA and WADA and surprisingly no intelligent posts to refute what they're saying. What a surprise.

What's there to refute? I think most people agree he's wrong.

If anything, this proves Manny probably isn't on HGH, or else they'd be a lot more informed about it.

[AllEyesOpen]

YOU WERE RIGHT!!!!

Freddie Roach -"There is NO Saliva, blood, or urine test that can detect HGH or growth hormones"




Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.

"There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested.

“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position.

“The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage."

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Don't you know the USADA has been in Mayweather and Golden Boy's pocket for years. This is all one huge conspiracy to discredit Pac.

[Red_Menace]

What's there to refute? I think most people agree he's wrong.

If anything, this proves Manny probably isn't on HGH, or else they'd be a lot more informed about it.

I was being sarcastic. There is nothing to refute. They're right. I was just expecting a bunch of Pac fans to jump in and try to discredit them with ******ity.

If Pac is clean, then he should take the test. He's rep is going to get trashed, all to protect his fragile ego. The guy is willing to trade his reputation and $40 million because of an accusation against him.

[Guest]

I was being sarcastic. There is nothing to refute. They're right. I was just expecting a bunch of Pac fans to jump in and try to discredit them with ******ity.

If Pac is clean, then he should take the test. He's rep is going to get trashed, all to protect his fragile ego. The guy is willing to trade his reputation and $40 million because of an accusation against him.

You are denying you would sleep with Holly Holm?


You'd hit it. I know you would.:TIMER:

[Cash Cow]

So he's wrong. If anything, that just shows that Manny's most likely NOT on HGH, or else he'd probably be more informed.

yeah ok

[Doctor_Tenma]

Roach is wrong again, Urine does the trick too. In some cases, urine is better.


September 1st, 2009
Ask the Doc: With steroid and HGH testing, is blood or urine best?

Abstract:
There is a new and promising HGH urine test that was developed at George Mason University. The new test uses nanotechnology to bind and amplify HGH in urine so that it may be detectable for a longer period of time. Blood screening can only detect HGH taken within the previous 24 to 48 hours. Nanotechnology may allow urine detection out to that two-week range.

[big_james10]

always its the mayweathers fault.. you're a typical hater

Of course they blame everything on Mayweather. Pacquaio is God. God is perfect. Therefore, Pac is perfect.

Its not Pacquaio's fault that this fight might fall through. It's Mayweather's "ridiculous" demand that Pac submit to those "intrusive, painful, performance dehancing random drug tests." Also, if the fight takes place and Pac loses, it's Mayweather's fault for distracting him with all the "nonsense" about random drug tests.

It's also Mayweather's fault that Pac cheated on his wife. If Mayweather hadn't retired and allowed Pac to become a superstar, he wouldn't have thos female admirers to cheat with.

If Pac moves up to 154 and loses to Yuri Foreman, its Mayweather's fault. If Mayweather had not insisted on the random blood tests, Pac would not have moved to a weight he was not capable of fighting at since he started his career at 106.

So, you are right. Everything bad that happens to Pacquaio is Mayweather's fault.