Where does Calzaghe rank in your opinion?

[Porter's Dad]

Greatest SMW ever.

That sounds awesome except when you realise that Ottke and Kessler are probably top 5 ATG SMWs.

[daggum]

lol tell me a successful fighter that hasn't done anything like the actions mentioned above.

bernard hopkins. his first title fight was against an undefeated roy jones jr. and he never got any stoppages based on hitting another guys gloves for 5 seconds. he actually had to knock them down or at least hit them once.

[daggum]

That sounds awesome except when you realise that Ottke and Kessler are probably top 5 ATG SMWs.

how can people decipher who's better between ottke and calzaghe? i really don't know. both undefeated. both have 21 title defenses.they have the same exact resume. they fought a lot of the same guys. their careers were both based on a structure of cheating either by shady decisions or early stoppages helping them win. at least ottke had the balls to face johnson where as calzaghe didn't.

[Sir Tom Jones]

bernard hopkins. his first title fight was against an undefeated roy jones jr. and he never got any stoppages based on hitting another guys gloves for 5 seconds. he actually had to knock them down or at least hit them once.

Have you seen more than 3 Calzaghe fights. I know you probably seen those 3 fights like 100+ times but you know it ain't healthy.

Hopkins reign at middleweight is overrated.

We all know it deep down.

[pasawayako]

i will put him at somewhere 90-100 atg.

[Spray_resistant]

how can people decipher who's better between ottke and calzaghe? i really don't know. both undefeated. both have 21 title defenses.they have the same exact resume. they fought a lot of the same guys. their careers were both based on a structure of cheating either by shady decisions or early stoppages helping them win. at least ottke had the balls to face johnson where as calzaghe didn't.

C'mon Ottke was a featherfisted fraud who had been schooled by every decent opponent he ever fought. He just had a good chin and hometown ref to help him. Anyone can clearly see that Calzaghe was extremely skilled and talented, regardless what you say he does have more good wins then given credit for and actually won all of his fights unlike Ottke.

[The_Demon]

C'mon Ottke was a featherfisted fraud who had been schooled by every decent opponent he ever fought. He just had a good chin and hometown ref to help him. Anyone can clearly see that Calzaghe was extremely skilled and talented, regardless what you say he does have more good wins then given credit for and actually won all of his fights unlike Ottke.

no need for a good poster like you even bothering with a delusional hater like daggum,the guy is pathetic

[Shadows]

That sounds awesome except when you realise that Ottke and Kessler are probably top 5 ATG SMWs.

how can people decipher who's better between ottke and calzaghe? i really don't know. both undefeated. both have 21 title defenses.they have the same exact resume. they fought a lot of the same guys. their careers were both based on a structure of cheating either by shady decisions or early stoppages helping them win. at least ottke had the balls to face johnson where as calzaghe didn't.

I'm neutral in all this, but **** me, Calzaghe threads produce some of the funniest posts.

[Porter's Dad]

Hopkins reign at middleweight is overrated

And Calzaghe's reign of terror at SMW is.....what?

[daggum]

C'mon Ottke was a featherfisted fraud who had been schooled by every decent opponent he ever fought. He just had a good chin and hometown ref to help him. Anyone can clearly see that Calzaghe was extremely skilled and talented, regardless what you say he does have more good wins then given credit for and actually won all of his fights unlike Ottke.

calzaghe was a dynamite puncher.

yea cept for reid and hopkins and also thanks to his hometown ref giving him early stoppages without hitting his opponent. i guess that is a perverted form of winning.