Where does Calzaghe rank in your opinion?

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No, below MW nothing matters as it pertains to the Hopkins fight....he had 1 MW fight and won in impressive fashion. Lets not say that was a great win for Hopkins but then go around and say Joe beating 2 unbeaten world champions mean jack ****.....it doesn't work that way.

At least Tito became the first guy to destroy Mayorga in impressive fashion. That win is underrated I think. Kessler and Lacy haven't went on to do anything to top that.

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At least Tito became the first guy to destroy Mayorga in impressive fashion. That win is underrated I think. Kessler and Lacy haven't went on to do anything to top that.

Mayorga you mean the WW-JMW? against this proven MW champion Tito?

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No, below MW nothing matters as it pertains to the Hopkins fight....he had 1 MW fight and won in impressive fashion. Lets not say that was a great win for Hopkins but then go around and say Joe beating 2 unbeaten world champions mean jack ****.....it doesn't work that way.

trinidad at middleweight is much better than kessler or lacy ever will be. if you want to pretend he's not then you are in denial.

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Mayorga you mean the WW-JMW? against this proven MW champion Tito?

Lacy couldn't beat the blown up Jermain Taylor who has been beaten by Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham. And Joe deserves credit for this win?

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Mayorga you mean the WW-JMW? against this proven MW champion Tito?

eubank, hopkins, and jones jr? blown up middleweights?this is a great resume for sure.

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trinidad at middleweight is much better than kessler or lacy ever will be. if you want to pretend he's not then you are in denial.

He beat 1 good opponent who went on to not accomplish much after, he also beat a journeyman.....oh and a blown up jmw...If you want to cite his record at ww fine he was accomplished jmw too he has some solid wins but his MW resume is far from impressive.

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Lacy couldn't beat the blown up Jermain Taylor who has been beaten by Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham. And Joe deserves credit for this win?

lacy beat 1 top 10 guy his entire career before facing joe. and that was a very old robin reid. yet this is the guy that cements joe's greatness? ridiculous.

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Lacy couldn't beat the blown up Jermain Taylor who has been beaten by Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham. And Joe deserves credit for this win?

either they both get credit or neither does which is it?

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He beat 1 good opponent who went on to not accomplish much after, he also beat a journeyman.....oh and a blown up jmw...If you want to cite his record at ww fine he was accomplished jmw too he has some solid wins but his MW resume is far from impressive.

but it's far better than kessler or lacy's. 1 good win is better than beating a bunch of binmen like they did. just like manny's welterweight resume is much better than floyds. wow floyd fight judah, baldomir, hatton, marquez, and mitchell at welter. some decent fighters but nothing great. manny fought a real challenge.

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And plus I hear more people than not saying Reid should have gotten the nod over Calzaghe even though I've never seen the fight.