Floyd Mayweather vs. Ray Robinson.

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #11
    Originally posted by TheGreatA
    There's no need to fight on the inside if you're 6'1 with a 78 inch reach at 147 pounds.
    Honestly, I'd pick a prime Vernon Forrest to beat Mayweather, so I really can't see Floyd beating Hearns at all. Everytime I picture those 2 going at it, I see Mayweather getting badly beaten.

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    • Sugar Ram
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      #12
      Floyd couldnt beat de la hoya,baldomir,hatton convincingly and now he beats Ray robinson??

      Pls u all have not seen the best footage of robinson in his prime coz they werent even recorded...so what u are saying now is Sugar ray robinson past his prime...Stop this dumb Comparisons!!

      and Duran would beat floyd at 135

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        #13
        Originally posted by Sugar Ram
        Floyd couldnt beat de la hoya,baldomir,hatton convincingly and now he beats Ray robinson??

        Pls u all have not seen the best footage of robinson in his prime coz they werent even recorded...so what u are saying now is Sugar ray robinson past his prime...Stop this dumb Comparisons!!

        and Duran would beat floyd at 135

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        • IronFistKilla
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          #14
          Originally posted by TheGreatA
          There's no need to fight on the inside if you're 6'1 with a 78 inch reach at 147 pounds.
          For Hearns, fighting on the inside is bad. That is where Floyd would want to take. The issue is who can impose their style. I think Floyd has enought tools to get his way.

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          • IronFistKilla
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            #15
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Honestly, I'd pick a prime Vernon Forrest to beat Mayweather, so I really can't see Floyd beating Hearns at all. Everytime I picture those 2 going at it, I see Mayweather getting badly beaten.
            See I agree with you here. Vernon that fought Mosely beats any version of Floyd. I think he was a more complete boxer than Hearns.

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            • intoccabile
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              #16
              Originally posted by Aldo-Raine
              I been saying Floyd would give Robinson HELL for years now.

              Robinson was to easy to hit.

              The only guy that beats Floyd is Whitaker.

              Alot of guys are going to come in here and cokk sukk robinson..without realizing he had plenty of flaws....like leaning in, and he was off balance alot.

              He threw alot of wide shots and like I said was very easy to hit.

              He had a great chin.
              Just Whitakre? you kidding?

              Hearns, Leonard and Duran, pretty sure Pepp would created a trillion problems., etc.

              Leonard beats Floyd EASY
              Hearns, I won't even comment what Hearns and his jab would do.
              Duran is up in the air imo, but at 135 I don't think floyd wants any
              part of that.. go watch Floyd vs Hernandez.. he gets hit FAR too much,
              had that been Duran he'd have died.
              The list of fighters goes on and on, actually.
              How about benitez... oh god.

              154 is out of floyds reach imo and in no way do i consider him a 154lbs fighter
              just because he fought Oscar. But at 154, he doesn't beat Winky or Forrest.
              Just to toss some names from the top of my head out there.

              You're looking at styles wrong, you also have to look at a fighters temperament. How well they react to things, or adjust. Shane Mosley has the exact same style as the great Ray Rob but his ability to adjust isn't the same. He'd be discouraged in a fight against a guy like Floyd and look stale IMO, whereas I don't think Ray would have the same problem. Better yet, how would "floyd" adjust/react against a style like Rays?

              There's so much more to the sport than just the styles. If styles were everything Zab Judah would be alongside the p4p kings right now haha, but the dude doesn't have it up top.

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              • whoelsebutjames
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                #17
                Originally posted by IronFistKilla
                See I agree with you here. Vernon that fought Mosely beats any version of Floyd. I think he was a more complete boxer than Hearns.
                At 154 yea id agree. I dont think floyd would be too amazing at 154 period.
                I dont think it would be anything like Forrest Vs Mosely. Cause Mosely has no defense.

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                • BennyST
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Aldo-Raine
                  Well you prolly dont know but I met Tommy Hearns several times, interviewed him when I was in highschool, etc....

                  Im from detroit, MI....Tommy is my ALL-TIME Favorite.

                  BUT.........

                  Against Mayweather Tommy would have to come up with a plan B...When he realizes that his best punch..."the right hand".....hasnt landed Flush once.

                  Floyd would potshot Tommy....and Play it safe at times then he would be thisclose to him making him miss...Tommy needed distance.

                  He would tie up Hearns and **** him inside.

                  Tommy had a great Jab.....and it would snap Floyds head back at times....

                  I dont think Floyd hit HARD enought to just drop Tommy with one shot...but he is fast and accurate enough to put Tommy to sleep with a punch he doesnt see coming.

                  I love Tommy man I really do...Floyd was to smart for him.
                  When you're 6'1", with a hideous reach advantage, lightning speed, one punch KO power and incredible boxing skills outside and inside, you don't necessarily have to outsmart your opponent. He's got every available physical advantage plus he's quicker, in my opinion, than Mayweather is at WW (if not quicker, easily as fast). You also might not think that he couldn't land the right hand, but he was sure able to on Leonard, as well as Benitez and Duran, two of the slickest and hardest fighters ever to hit flush.

                  Hearns couldn't fight on the inside? That's news to me.

                  Anyway, what makes you think Floyd had the range, and speed to pot-shot Hearns? If Floyd tries a pot-shot fight then he's on the outside getting hammered with that jab all night.

                  On the inside, Hearns left hook is quick and brutal, but, say Hearns doesn't win on the inside...How does Mayweather get inside on Hearns all night to win? He's not exactly an aggressive fighter who likes to get inside.

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                  • whoelsebutjames
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by intoccabile
                    Just Whitakre? you kidding?

                    Hearns, Leonard and Duran, pretty sure Pepp would created a trillion problems., etc.

                    Leonard beats Floyd EASY
                    Hearns, I won't even comment what Hearns and his jab would do.
                    Duran is up in the air imo, but at 135 I don't think floyd wants any
                    part of that.. go watch Floyd vs Hernandez.. he gets hit FAR too much,
                    had that been Duran he'd have died.
                    The list of fighters goes on and on, actually.
                    How about benitez... oh god.

                    154 is out of floyds reach imo and in no way do i consider him a 154lbs fighter
                    just because he fought Oscar. But at 154, he doesn't beat Winky or Forrest.
                    Just to toss some names from the top of my head out there.

                    You're looking at styles wrong, you also have to look at a fighters temperament. How well they react to things, or adjust. Shane Mosley has the exact same style as the great Ray Rob but his ability to adjust isn't the same. He'd be discouraged in a fight against a guy like Floyd and look stale IMO, whereas I don't think Ray would have the same problem. Better yet, how would "floyd" adjust/react against a style like Rays?

                    There's so much more to the sport than just the styles. If styles were everything Zab Judah would be alongside the p4p kings right now haha, but the dude doesn't have it up top.

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                    • Go Blue
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                      #20
                      You have you thoughts, I have mine.

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