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  • Lorily
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    #141
    Originally posted by damned1974
    I wonder what Lady "Fan" would have to say if they found Pacquiao had used PEDs? I would also like to know "Pac-fans" opinion about keeping random drug testing in boxing-not just for this fight.....
    It would also be funny if the Mayweathers actually had a source for this speculation (such as Moorer who worked with Pacquiao before)...as the Pac-fans say "you don't know what happens behind the scenes-lol
    You don't think if they had an actual source for speculation that they wouldn't have said by now?? GMAB, May Sr. can't keep anything to himself.
    I wonder what "damned 1974" would have to say if they found Pacquiao had NOT used PEDS?

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    • damned1974
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      #142
      Originally posted by Lorily
      You don't think if they had an actual source for speculation that they wouldn't have said by now?? GMAB, May Sr. can't keep anything to himself.
      I wonder what "damned 1974" would have to say if they found Pacquiao had NOT used PEDS?
      Lorily-first off,I like Pacquiao's style in the ring-I dislike fans of boxers.To me it seems bizarre that people become fixated on them.What truly bothers me is that Pacquiao cannot accept RANDOM blood tests-that is weird no matter how you look at it,and ignore my opinion because you will find that people who dislike Mayweather find it su****ious as well. Aside from Pacquiao fans,most would prefer to have his tainted reputation cleared and get the fight moving,but we all know from past negotiations that Manny is too difficult to compromise on damn near anything.
      Now it is speculation at this stage,but law enforcement use speculation to find motives for crimes.Speculation isn't as bad as people on here are saying-they are "pathways" to finding truth.In this day and age where athletes do what it takes to get unfair advantages,the public has a right to feel that there are a lot of red flags going on,especially when too many conflicting stories within Manny's camp is going on and his team are asking what would happen if dirty results appeared and if they could keep them hidden-is this behaviour of innocent people??? I want to see this fight take place as much as the next person and to make that happen,Pacquiao will have to be drug free.So to answer yours and anyone else's question-no-I hope Manny is not on anything illegal.

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      • Mr. Chago
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        #143
        Originally posted by Lorily
        He's always had hand speed (watch his previous fights), He's always had power (check his record) ... just because he did it faster than Floyd means nothing. Actually, Floyd gave an interview while signing autographs after the JMM fight and was asked "What do you think of Pac moving up in weight and knocking all these guys out?" He said "I done the same thing." He did not think anything of it until his father and a few others got in his ear. How do you know the contract signed said random testing? And, through the negotiations Pac camp had agreed to a blood test for as early as up to 30 days before, 5 days before the fight and immediatly after, but that was too simple for FMJ camp so they said no, we want USADA testing then. You have to remember this did not start at "Floyd wants USADA testing, Pac refused" A WHOLE lot happened before that.


        Interesting comments of Jim and Emanuel...

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        • switchsouthpaw
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          #144
          What is very silly and telling all at the same time, is when Mayweather was being criticized for specifically handpicking Marquez, who was two weight classes below him, he responded by telling anyone with a microphone how he himself came up successfully from lower weight classes, not once ever having to defend his own success in doing so--while moving up in weight, but now he feels compelled to explain away Manny's success as a result of PED's, does that make sense to anyone with a brain? Isn't that contradictory?

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          • Lorily
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            #145
            Originally posted by damned1974
            Lorily-first off,I like Pacquiao's style in the ring-I dislike fans of boxers.To me it seems bizarre that people become fixated on them.What truly bothers me is that ,Pacquiao cannot accept RANDOM blood tests-that is weird no matter how you look at itand ignore my opinion because you will find that people who dislike Mayweather find it su****ious as well. Aside from Pacquiao fans,most would prefer to have his tainted reputation cleared and get the fight moving,but we all know from past negotiations that Manny is too difficult to compromise on damn near anything.
            Now it is speculation at this stage,but law enforcement use speculation to find motives for crimes.Speculation isn't as bad as people on here are saying-they are "pathways" to finding truth.In this day and age where athletes do what it takes to get unfair advantages,the public has a right to feel that there are a lot of red flags going on,especially when too many conflicting stories within Manny's camp is going on and his team are asking what would happen if dirty results appeared and if they could keep them hidden-is this behaviour of innocent people??? I want to see this fight take place as much as the next person and to make that happen,Pacquiao will have to be drug free.So to answer yours and anyone else's question-no-I hope Manny is not on anything illegal.
            I get what your trying to say... However, just a couple of points.
            1. "Pacquiao cannot accept RANDOM blood tests-that is weird no matter how you look at it"... If you read back on past articles (i.e. 12/25/09 Bob Arum Confirms...) states that Freddie Roach told the Associated Press he would be willing to let Pac do blood test up to 5 days prior to bout" and of course 30 days before and immediately after. For blood, you don't need to be any more random than that, it's more accurate than urine.
            2. This is a battle of wills at this point, made to look like Pac is refusing to take random tests which is not true. You do not need blood tests 3 times a week when your getting one done the next week. Blood cant change that fast. People forget all the things said in between. He is not willing to let FMJ camp dictate his innocence. At one point Schaefer said o.k. we don't have to use USADA, Nevada State Commision would be fine (12/26/09 Golden Boy backing off USADA). When Arum said he would do anything NSBC wanted then FMJ camp said no. Now both sides are unwilling to budge.
            3."law enforcement use speculation to find motives for crimes" ... No crime has been committed. If someone says "Look at that ugly guy with that beautiful woman, he must have money" Then should the ugly man be made to show his bank acct? (I know, weird analogy but you get the point)
            I am not a Floyd hater, I'm a boxing fan. I keep up with the news and this whole thing has gotten twisted... from both sides. IMO this fight will happen in the end, but probably not until the end of the year and a whole lot more drama to hype the fight to even bigger than expected in March.

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            • takler
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              #146
              Just want to point out that the Pacman team really did something to make fight continue.

              The "Blood taken 30 days before and immediately after" was their move during the negotiation. This was done with no malice whatsoever to hide something illegal. They are not fools, as it is very obvious to say they have "dug their own graveyard" thing. They are smarter than that.

              Only fools (low IQ) would take it "literally" - that's why *****s were born out of this.

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              • iRealChamp
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                #147
                Originally posted by renren40
                From Pacquiao To Mayweather Team, GBP, And All The Haters

                that actually is from mayweathers perspective.

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                  #148
                  Sounds crazy. Gayweather team are not in their right mind. Now Gay sr. claim that manny has no match to his son in any respect with or without such steroid or any enhancing drug. Why are they so hard on that maater?

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                  • slindee3
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya
                    the chimpanzee-looking mayweathers should shut their big mouths up. if they think someting is wrong with pacquiao, they should look for evidence to prove their allegations. it is not fair for pacquiao to be accused of using ped when pac never failed a drug test by the nevada athletic commission. they are ridnig pac's popularity at pac's expense.

                    they should stop pretending to fight pacquiao. they really have no intentions of figting pacquiao because they are afraid.

                    shame to the baboons!
                    Ali is my all time favorite fighter and you are dong him a disservice by using his name. Why refer to the Mayweathers as baboons and chimpanzees? That's derogatory to all black people. It's ok to disagree with them but why resort to such name calling? I'm willing to bet that you believed that Barry Bonds was on steroids even though he was never tested positive. Is it so inconceivable that Pac never used steroids? Everyone has their own opinion and I happen to agree with the Mayweathers.

                    How is Mayweather afraid when he will be taking the same test as Pac? Who is refusing to take the test?

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                    • arnold_jasper
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Lorily
                      I get what your trying to say... However, just a couple of points.
                      1. "Pacquiao cannot accept RANDOM blood tests-that is weird no matter how you look at it"... If you read back on past articles (i.e. 12/25/09 Bob Arum Confirms...) states that Freddie Roach told the Associated Press he would be willing to let Pac do blood test up to 5 days prior to bout" and of course 30 days before and immediately after. For blood, you don't need to be any more random than that, it's more accurate than urine.
                      2. This is a battle of wills at this point, made to look like Pac is refusing to take random tests which is not true. You do not need blood tests 3 times a week when your getting one done the next week. Blood cant change that fast. People forget all the things said in between. He is not willing to let FMJ camp dictate his innocence. At one point Schaefer said o.k. we don't have to use USADA, Nevada State Commision would be fine (12/26/09 Golden Boy backing off USADA). When Arum said he would do anything NSBC wanted then FMJ camp said no. Now both sides are unwilling to budge.
                      3."law enforcement use speculation to find motives for crimes" ... No crime has been committed. If someone says "Look at that ugly guy with that beautiful woman, he must have money" Then should the ugly man be made to show his bank acct? (I know, weird analogy but you get the point)
                      I am not a Floyd hater, I'm a boxing fan. I keep up with the news and this whole thing has gotten twisted... from both sides. IMO this fight will happen in the end, but probably not until the end of the year and a whole lot more drama to hype the fight to even bigger than expected in March.
                      Good point. That's right. Pacquiao never refused blood testing. It is the agency and procedure that has been objected to. Gayweathers wanted to dictate and bully pacquiao on that issue. It is a set up. They created a steroid issue on manny as they presume that manny will be pinned down and will leave no choice except to submit to their demand.

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