Here's an interview with a Doctor who actually tested Olympic athletes for EPO

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    #41
    Originally posted by xcaret v2
    they are on a mission, finding pages from 20 years ago to try and prove pacquiao is innocent.... the steroid user shoot himself in the foot and they are still in denial.
    so prove them wrong idiot!

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    • Red_Menace
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      #42
      Originally posted by NYU Alum.
      It's not just about the guidelines, it's who is in cahoots with who here !!
      Huh? Are you suggesting the USADA will give Mayweather an unfair advantage? Nice conspiracy theory. Is the illuminati involved too?

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        #43
        Originally posted by Red_Menace
        Huh? Are you suggesting the USADA will give Mayweather an unfair advantage? Nice conspiracy theory. Is the illuminati involved too?
        Reading it does the brain good !!

        I pulled this from another thread titled "GBP in bed with USADA"


        "When the athlete has no advance notice of the test, he or she will be chaperoned continuously from the moment of contact from the testing officials until the sample is provided. The test is usually a urine sample, as this is the easiest and least intrusive means of obtaining bodily fluids for testing. WADA has detailed protocols about the manner in which the sample is physically placed into a test container, the sealing of the container, and its secure transport to an accredited test facility. The test must usually provide for a designated A and B sample, with the B acting as the basis for a second test if the A sample tests positive. The athlete is deemed to have tested positive when both the A and the B samples generate that result."

        We echo athletes’ demands to create a truly independent investigation and let impartial experts and stakeholders participate in the process.



        The USADA is supposed to be an independent agency, yet GBP was allowed to dictate how they were to administer their tests? They don't even take blood from the Olympic athletes until after their competition is done. Up until that point, they mainly perform random urinanalysis.
        Sounds a little fishy to me.

        "Schaefer didn't precisely spell out how the drug testing would be done. He and USADA Chief Executive Travis Tygart have said they don't believe an effective anti-doping policy can be carried out if Pacquiao won't agree to test any time in the 30-day period before the fight."


        What interest does Tygart have in this fight? Why is he out there like one of the promoters implying Pacquiao won't take any kind of test, even urine, in the 30 day window? Pacquiao has stated numerous times that they can test his urine any time. And according to USADA policy on testing Olympic athletes-urine is used leading up to competition as it is "the easiest and least-intrusive means of testing of bodily fluids."

        So why Mr. Tygart, are you saying that urine testing leading up to the fight is insufficient? Pacquiao is already bending over backwards by agreeing to a blood test, at all, before the fight. So it makes me wonder how it's ok to use urine for random testing on Olympic athletes but not for this fight. What ties do GBP and TYGART really have? Why was Tygart even this invested in this fight? All these things should be a red flag to what's really going on here.

        So bottom line, IF BLOOD AFTER COMPETITION is good enough for the Olympics, why is it being changed for this fight?
        Last edited by NYU Alum.; 12-30-2009, 04:22 AM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Left2body
          All those "experts" were made to look like incompetent fools by Conte's company Balco. So who's smarter and more of an expert?

          - the guys who tested and found all of Conte's guys negative EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ON PED

          or

          - the guy who made it so that his DIRTY ATHLETES still passed their "EXPERT GIVEN TEST" with negative results.


          Take your time on this one.
          Explain who didn't they bust? USADA did the testing? Conte said you can miss up to two random USADA test... Conte says EPO is the majority of what he uses...

          The experts are saying you can catch EPO on urine. You also have to know that these experts did not test Marion Jones or Tim Montgomery... The USADA did... The same USADA that Floyd wants to use. That same USADA did not bust Montgomery and Jones.

          So again who would you believe... This does not fall on what Dr. Catlin is saying cuz Dr. Catlin did not do the tests on Balco athletes. USADA fucked that one up not the experts.

          So do me favor take your time on this one and then comeback to me...

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            #45
            Originally posted by Aldo-Raine
            All yu guys are doing is proving why Pac should just take the tests..since he isnt on any of this stuff and it doesnt have an effect on athletes.

            Great should be no problems taking the test.
            holy **** ...

            he Is willing to take the tests ...

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              #46
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Explain who didn't they bust? USADA did the testing? Conte said you can miss up to two random USADA test... Conte says EPO is the majority of what he uses...

              The experts are saying you can catch EPO on urine. You also have to know that these experts did not test Marion Jones or Tim Montgomery... The USADA did... The same USADA that Floyd wants to use. That same USADA did not bust Montgomery and Jones.

              So again who would you believe... This does not fall on what Dr. Catlin is saying cuz Dr. Catlin did not do the tests on Balco athletes. USADA fucked that one up not the experts.

              So do me favor take your time on this one and then comeback to me...
              Actually the USADA has their testing done by WADA sanctioned labs. At the time, the tests were not capable of catching what they were using, from what I understand. The cheaters will always be ahead of the testing, which is why WADA has come up with that Athlete passport program. It's an interesting read. WADA is the best program in the world and USADA just follows their standards and uses their approved labs, or has approved labs.

              It's all better the the Nevada program.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Red_Menace
                Actually the USADA has their testing done by WADA sanctioned labs. At the time, the tests were not capable of catching what they were using, from what I understand. The cheaters will always be ahead of the testing, which is why WADA has come up with that Athlete passport program. It's an interesting read. WADA is the best program in the world and USADA just follows their standards and uses their approved labs, or has approved labs.

                It's all better the the Nevada program.
                What chu got to say motherf**ker

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                  #48
                  NYU alum, your post is basically paranoid and insane. The USADA is a non-profit organization. Basically, they have no investment in the fight because they won't receive any payment from the event.

                  The USADA follows a standard and practice that is updated yearly by WADA. That is what they do. Part of that standard is blood testing, as I posted earlier. I do not know how frequent it is done. The main part is that all of their testing is done at random. I know Pac said he'd do random urine testing at any time. But the USADA can collect either urine or blood, and if you read my earlier post you'll see what they test the blood for. Pac wants fixed dates for the blood samples, which is against the WADA protocol for providing samples.

                  I don't think GBP has asked for anything above and beyond what the USADA would normally do. I'm not sure that protocols haven't changed since prior Olympics.

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by NYU Alum.
                    What chu got to say motherf**ker
                    Who, me? What have I got to say about what? My own post?

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                      #50
                      lol 2003...OMFG are you pacquiao fans that ******ed?

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