Here's an interview with a Doctor who actually tested Olympic athletes for EPO

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  • Left2body
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    #51
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Explain who didn't they bust? USADA did the testing? Conte said you can miss up to two random USADA test... Conte says EPO is the majority of what he uses...

    The experts are saying you can catch EPO on urine. You also have to know that these experts did not test Marion Jones or Tim Montgomery... The USADA did... The same USADA that Floyd wants to use. That same USADA did not bust Montgomery and Jones.

    So again who would you believe... This does not fall on what Dr. Catlin is saying cuz Dr. Catlin did not do the tests on Balco athletes. USADA fucked that one up not the experts.

    So do me favor take your time on this one and then comeback to me...
    They have the same accreditation's so yeah, Conte was beating the system and the experts. As to skipping 2 random test that just HIGHLIGHTS the importance of random test. They obviously skipped it because they were caught unaware and therefore unprepared. Emphasizing that if foreknowledge of the test was available that it could be fooled into a false positive.


    Conte and other experts had to DEVELOP NEW methods to catchup to Balco and Conte.

    This is all a bunch of the tail wagging the dog though. What is better blood or urine testing. Just agree to take both randomly.

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    • el boxeo
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      • Mrmza
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        #53
        Originally posted by xcaret v2
        they are on a mission, finding pages from 20 years ago to try and prove pacquiao is innocent.... the steroid user shoot himself in the foot and they are still in denial.
        Dude when Team Pacquiao takes the Gayweathers to court and presents FACTUAL information, Gayweather Jr & Golden Boy would wish they never said jack and just step into the ring with Pacman. The Gayweathers are f**ked either way, if they step in the ring Gayweather will get beaten up and when they step in the court they will stand to lose millions!!! Its all good Pacman fans!!! The truth will prevail!!!

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          #54
          Originally posted by Red_Menace
          NYU alum, your post is basically paranoid and insane. The USADA is a non-profit organization. Basically, they have no investment in the fight because they won't receive any payment from the event.

          The USADA follows a standard and practice that is updated yearly by WADA. That is what they do. Part of that standard is blood testing, as I posted earlier. I do not know how frequent it is done. The main part is that all of their testing is done at random. I know Pac said he'd do random urine testing at any time. But the USADA can collect either urine or blood, and if you read my earlier post you'll see what they test the blood for. Pac wants fixed dates for the blood samples, which is against the WADA protocol for providing samples.

          I don't think GBP has asked for anything above and beyond what the USADA would normally do. I'm not sure that protocols haven't changed since prior Olympics.
          Read again, motherf**ker !!


          USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

          Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:


          A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

          No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

          It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
          There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

          Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

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