Comments Thread For: Miguel Cotto: "Pacquiao's Refusal Raises Questions"

[ncpitbull]

No it doesn't. Show me any published research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance. Even Conte who manufactures PEDs ddeosnt even think highly of HGH.

I don't think it has to be a HIGH increase. Any increase that's unnatural should be and is against regulations. If you are already a world class fighter, a huge boost may not be necessary. The majority of the time, it comes down to who is in better/shape or condition.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/other-...onte-weighs-in

[sNiTcH]

what are you ******?

floyd only injected things in his hands in states were its LEGAL, and hes far from the only fighter to do it.

what has floyd sr selling drugs to support his family after he got shot to do with this? it has no connection to boxing. dont be so immature..

and even if your sig meant jack **** it doesnt change the fact that pacquiao refused olympic style drug testing, its on him and has nothing to do with the mayweathers.

like cotto says olympic style testing should e done for all boxing events, floyd is doing the sport a favor bringing it up. manny refusing is hurting the sport and his legacy.

hehe its just a family history. history repeats itself.

Anyway, pacman has already agreed to the test Just relax and its actually expensive to have a heart attack

[#1Assassin]

hehe its just a family history. history repeats itself.

Anyway, pacman has already agreed to the test Just relax and its actually expensive to have a heart attack

floyd did nothing wrong using painkillers for his hands, its perfectly legal. unlike what pac is accused of.

and what floyd sr did is his history, not floyds.

and i am relaxed.. im a real boxer too so im in shape. keyboard warriors spending their whole lives in front of a computer with a bag of chips are the ones who need to worry about heartattacks.

[Left2body]

Originally Posted by Xeraser
No it doesn't. Show me any published research study that indicates HGH increase athletic performance. Even Conte who manufactures PEDs ddeosnt even think highly of HGH.

Conte also states that EPO would be more likely and beneficial for boxers. Since you bring up Conte he also says that non-random testing is a joke and easily by-passed.

He notes that: "He also says that for these substances to be utilized at their maximum efficiency, they must be properly cycled and be out of your system by the time competition begins."

I'm like Cotto and I think most boxing fans in that I thought nothing of this whole thing until Pac refused the testing. Then hearing his alternating reasons as to why he is refusing has made me su****ious.

[Xeraser]

Why??? has he contributed anything on boxingscene??? If he has then i would take the time out to check anyone of his interview on boxingscene, Am not going to google doctor catlin for nothing.

Why should i when i have three articles from different people connected to drug testing/boxing together and all those 3 different articles are here on Non stop boxing, So let me know if we have an interview of Dr catlin on boxingscene and i would gladly dig it up and study up....If not then you're just reaching.

Well there's your little knowledge again. Again, Dr. Catlin doesnt have to work directly in things that involve in boxing to make a difference in this sport. If you used your brain and know his work then you would know the difference.

[Monte Cristo]

no other drugs improve your boxing technique, footwork or evasiveness, that comes down to hard work. innocent till proven guilty.

Hard work? steroids help you train much better and help you avoid injuries, it all depends in what you're taking. They also help you take more punishment making you inmune to pain.

You act like its alright to take steroids and it doesn't make a difference, but it does thats why many athletes take them.

Pacquiao is a lot better than before so ofcourse these things raise some su****ion. He might be clean, but even if he doesn't like Mayweather he must still prove to the world that he is or he'll always will raise su****ions.

[Xeraser]

[QUOTE=Left2body;7118212]Conte also states that EPO would be more likely and beneficial for boxers. Since you bring up Conte he also says that non-random testing is a joke and easily by-passed.

He notes that: "He also says that for these substances to be utilized at their maximum efficiency, they must be properly cycled and be out of your system by the time competition begins."

I'm like Cotto and I think most boxing fans in that I thought nothing of this whole thing until Pac refused the testing. Then hearing his alternating reasons as to why he is refusing has made me su****ious.[/QUOTE]

Pac agreed to unlimited random urine test. Urine test is better test in detecting EPO than blood test.

[crillz]

hehe its just a family history. history repeats itself.

Anyway, pacman has already agreed to the test Just relax and its actually expensive to have a heart attack

to what test? the one that isn't the one Mayweather asked for which he might as well say NO I don't to take any tests because by switching the conditions he voids it. him saying "I'll test under other conditions" is the equivalent of saying "NO, I will not test" because Mayweather wants this done his way or NO WAY, understand?

the same way how Pacquiao stepped out of the known rules of Boxing and demanded Cotto defend his 147 belt at 145 or he wont fight is the same way how Floyd can step out of the known rules of Boxing and demand a stricter test where a cheater can't cheat or he wont fight. simple as that..

[TheUptownKid]

fact of the matter is that innocent until proven guilty is the court of law but in the court of public opinion (and putting the public's asses in seats) you are guilty until you prove otherwise. Look at tiger's 50 hoes, kobe's ****, barry bonds and roids, all have denied accusations (to a point) and all were villified by the public. Pac is messing up a good thing right now and that's the love of the fair weather fan. Sure hardcore boxing fans are gonna watch fights, but winning over the mob is a gift few people are given and the mob can leave as quick as it came. Please your fans, please your pockets I say. Manny take the damn test!!!

[Xeraser]

Conte also states that EPO would be more likely and beneficial for boxers. Since you bring up Conte he also says that non-random testing is a joke and easily by-passed.

He notes that: "He also says that for these substances to be utilized at their maximum efficiency, they must be properly cycled and be out of your system by the time competition begins."

I'm like Cotto and I think most boxing fans in that I thought nothing of this whole thing until Pac refused the testing. Then hearing his alternating reasons as to why he is refusing has made me su****ious.

Pac already agreed to unlimited random urine test. Urine test is better in detecting EPO than blood test.