A typical Duck move

[Chuckguy]

here's a good question would you rather have sex or take a bloodtest?

and uh no, you can't have both at the same time silly

I see you are a ***** and wont and havent answered any of my questions but Ill man up and answer yours
If it meant a payday of over 30 mil and it meant clearing my name and securing my legacy as a boxer I would have to say take a blood test
I can have all the sex I want after the fight
30 mill comes with lots of love

[overlordbox]

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It might be possible, but it is unlikely to have the rapid evolution as a fighter like Manny while moving up in weight.

Im not saying HE IS cheating.

But his reasoning on why he wont take random blood tests are reasons for su****ion.

actually the needle thing is questionable
because of all that ink he has all over his body
it may be a miscommunication between pacquiao and his representatives

but again, In order to ACCUSE someone you MUST, I repeat you MUST have SOLID HARD PROOF

[fugu]

dude, we are going in circles here

answer this

Let's say you work your butt off as a construction laborer, a fireman, a janitor, or pretty much just any decent living making money through good old hard work. You worked yourself hard enough for you to get raises, promotions and bonuses to a point that one day you drive home with a brand new BMW- paid off!

Sounds nice doesn't? I should know, I myself purchased a luxury automobile thanks to hard work and skills. I earned it, and that's why I'm happy having purchased it.

Then next thing you know, you got some jealous neighbors spreading gossip around the block that you might be selling drugs for you to be able to afford an expensive vehicle because flat out in their opinion, your job as a (insert occupation of choice here, in my case a writer) doesn't pay enough for you to buy such things.

Let's say you brush it off, because it's ****** right? It's baseless, childish and pointless. Call it envy, jealousy or whatever. You know you're legit, so why waste your time worrying about what these gossipmongers say. Besides, what proof do they got, right? But what if they keep up the rumors even buying an ad on your town newspaper just to tell the world that they think you're dealing drugs to pay for the luxuries you have in life.

Tell me, how would you feel?

And out of nowhere they ask you to go out of your way and inconvenience yourself just so you can disprove their baseless accusations for their benefit. I mean, some people might just go ahead and do it, I don't know about you, but to me, that's absolutely BS. It's not as if you're not willing to show them your pay stubs and show them how you earn your money to buy the things you own, you actually are willing to, but they also want to put you on surveillance and constant monitoring. AND ALL BECAUSE OF WHAT?!?!?! TO SATISFY THEIR BASELESS DOUBTS? For all you know they just want tick you off just to get to you because of their jealousy. Who in their right mind would oblige to that?

These analogies are completely irrelevant. It is not close to being the same thing.
But okay.

If it went to the paper, the whole world knew of the allegations, but i could get multi million dollars if i took a simple test, i would probably do it.

But please dont compare being a prizefighter and a world class athlete to other working mens. It is not close to being the same thing and the reasons for suspision is neither close to the same.

[overlordbox]

I see you are a ***** and wont and havent answered any of my questions but Ill man up and answer yours
If it meant a payday of over 30 mil and it meant clearing my name and securing my legacy as a boxer I would have to say take a blood test
I can have all the sex I want after the fight
30 mill comes with lots of love

calm down dude i answered your questions

my answer was
sue your accuser get loads of cash, then surelly he'll fight you coz he needs the $ with or without drug test and earn $40mil


and who is ****** enough to prove your accuser in order to satisfy their doubts? what did you get in the end?

sure you proved them wrong, but you also proved that they can boss you around

[overlordbox]

calm down dude i answered your questions

my answer was
sue your accuser get loads of cash, then surelly he'll fight you coz he needs the $ with or without drug test and earn $40mil


and who is ****** enough to prove your accuser in order to satisfy their doubts? what did you get in the end?

sure you proved them wrong, but you also proved that they can boss you around

and that's how it works in the REAL world

[Chuckguy]

prove it, prove that no one can ever do that
can you go up in weight and KO ur opponents, with and without steroids?

its both possible right?

No doubt its possible
but when has it been done in recent times?
SSM went up from a killer at 135 and has maybe a handfull of KO;'s since
Oscar the same thing
Vargas the same
MArquez stunned and wobbled pac and yet he cant do **** above 135
and those are all very good fighters
I know manny is supposedly great and you know what maybe he is but I doubt he is without the help of some stuff
look at Floyd
he was knocking fools out until he moved up and he is a far better boxer than manny
I think you are getting confused between doubt and proof
One can doubt the man until there is proof right?
so the blood tests will be the proof that he is either clean or not
if he is clean then nothing can be said and we were all wrong to accuse or suspect anything

[fugu]

actually the needle thing is questionable
because of all that ink he has all over his body
it may be a miscommunication between pacquiao and his representatives

but again, In order to ACCUSE someone you MUST, I repeat you MUST have SOLID HARD PROOF

To accuse? Sure. But we can highly suspect him and therefore the need for solid tests are valid.

[overlordbox]

These analogies are completely irrelevant. It is not close to being the same thing.
But okay.

If it went to the paper, the whole world knew of the allegations, but i could get multi million dollars if i took a simple test, i would probably do it.

But please dont compare being a prizefighter and a world class athlete to other working mens. It is not close to being the same thing and the reasons for suspision is neither close to the same.

i see no difference
both fighters are working hard
they box in order to earn a living and that's their job, they work they get paid just like any other person

they are like you and me both have reputations

[fugu]

and who is ****** enough to prove your accuser in order to satisfy their doubts? what did you get in the end?

sure you proved them wrong, but you also proved that they can boss you around

Cmon man. Thats like Cotto saying no to a catchweight because else "Manny can boss me around".

If hes 100% clean he should just say, sure lets ****ing fight.

Boxing 2009 = sue your opponent for trashtalk instead of fighting him.

Hopefully boxing will survive.

[Chuckguy]

calm down dude i answered your questions

my answer was
sue your accuser get loads of cash, then surelly he'll fight you coz he needs the $ with or without drug test and earn $40mil


and who is ****** enough to prove your accuser in order to satisfy their doubts? what did you get in the end?

sure you proved them wrong, but you also proved that they can boss you around

YOu just dont get it
you remind me of my mexican uncles who are all caught up with machismo
you take the test and come out clean and that makes floyd look like the ***** he is. You leave no doubt and you prove to everyone and yourself that I was a clean fighter. HOw bad would the media and all of us jump on Floyd if manny tests the way floyd wants him to comes out clean and to add the cherry on top he beats him in their showdown
To me that is bad ass
but thats just my opinion