Theres ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for Mayweathers to demand USADA testing!!

[GTR]

you dont need proof, if he feels doubtful manny or anyone else is clean theres no reason not to have those tests. whats wrong with better tests?

its not about manny beating his oponents. its the fact that hes moved up 7 weightclasses and both his stamina and speed increased despite the extra carried weight. thats weird, whats even more weird is hes hurting guys more having moved up 7 weightclasses than he was before. for someone to have such vast physical improvements in all areas at his age having moved up in weight like that is odd.

floyd sr said that not floyd jr. lol at you even expecting floyd to back up other ppls words. when roach talks about how pac could beat mosley and all these guys you dont hold it against manny. yet you blame floyd for something his pops said.

how does ensuring fair play make you a ducker? to me its the guy who right away backed out making a million weak excuses. afraid of needles? nice tattoos..

thats a great way to start your reasoning. how can u justify yourself without proof?

NSAC has been testing PROFESSIONAL FIGHTERS for many, many years and their technology keeps evolving to detect illegal substances. USADA tests amatuer olympians which i also dont doubt that they are in par with the latest testing. Companies should do what they do best and stick to their profession. Stop interfering with someone elses specialty.

[IMDAZED]

There was a reason, and that was the fact that Pacquiao was moving up in weight, after fighting only one fight at 135lbs. and previously before that campaigning at 130 or less his entire career.

Oscar, on the other hand, had fought above 147 pounds since 2001.

147 was the weight that Oscar decided he could fight at in order to make the fight on more even terms. The weight penalty was to make sure he didn't have any more physical advantages than he already had.



The weight penalty in the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight makes even more sense, being that Mayweather, in his last fight...agreed to make a weight in which he had no intentions of making...and didn't.

That doesn't matter. Oscar had never before broken a contractual agreement. Furthermore, it was quite ridiculous to assume he would, seeing as how he went 12 rounds at 150 (three pounds!) in his previous fight. The demands were ridiculous and unheard of.

[renren40]

thats a great way to start your reasoning. how can u justify yourself without proof?

NSAC has been testing PROFESSIONAL FIGHTERS for many, many years and their technology keeps evolving to detect illegal substances. USADA tests amatuer olympians which i also dont doubt that they are in par with the latest testing.

thank you .. bout time someone made some sense

[GTR]

thank you .. bout time someone made some sense

thanks. i had to edit and add this.

Companies should do what they do best and stick to their profession. Stop interfering with someone elses specialty.

[DarthVoid]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar DelaHoya have been documented to be using an illegal painkiller during fights. Fact.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342540

[norrin]

Manny aint never tested positive on anything, why tap into that?? their only excuse is pac destroying every challenge pinned on him and "theres no way a natural talent can do that". THATS IT, no proof, NOTHING. Now thats what i call being supertitious. WTF ever happened to "Floyd will destroy manny, roids or not"? All talk, no walk.

THIS IS DUCKING TO ITS FINEST. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Good job Floyd.

I wouldn't say that Mayweather is ducking Manny but I think he is very skeptical about some of his achievements.

Is it possible for one person to be such an "unique" and "exceptional" talent w/ average boxing skills?

Statistically speaking, I don't think so and I think that is the entire thrush of Mayweather's argument. There is no fountain of youth. There are no more statistically anomalies out there. His most recent achievements go against several biological or scientific truisms. It is totally illogical.

I will admit that Manny is a physically gifted athlete but to be successful at the elite level takes a combination of exceptional boxing skill and physical ability, which is present in some of the past ATG's such as Duran, Leonard, or Arguello. Because at the elite level in boxing, your physical ability isn't that much difference than the next person, what makes the difference is the skill level. Manny's skill level has improved but his physical ability has improved more which makes everyone question is he on something.

If he is not juicing and he beats Mayweather and Mosley. I will tip my hat and congratulate him but I would have to think twice before I use his name in the same sentence as Duran.

[Xyei]

Blood tests should be standard in boxing IMO. With that said, both sides are being ******ed with the negotiations. They should both give in a bit to make the fight happen. Classic case of two super stars wanting everything in their favor.

[Great Afrikan]

Manny aint never tested positive on anything, why tap into that?? their only excuse is pac destroying every challenge pinned on him and "theres no way a natural talent can do that". THATS IT, no proof, NOTHING. Now thats what i call being supertitious. WTF ever happened to "Floyd will destroy manny, roids or not"? All talk, no walk.

THIS IS DUCKING TO ITS FINEST. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Good job Floyd.

Marion Jones never tested positive either after winning all those gold medals....Manny's cheating, i' sorry i'm convinced....

[GTR]

Blood tests should be standard in boxing IMO. With that said, both sides are being ******ed with the negotiations. They should both give in a bit to make the fight happen. Classic case of two super stars wanting everything in their favor.

in a statement released by arum, manny will comply to ALL BLOOD and URINE TEST as long as its administered and required by NSAC, even on fight night. I repeat, EVEN ON FIGHT NIGHT.

[GTR]

Marion Jones never tested positive either after winning all those gold medals....Manny's cheating, i' sorry i'm convinced....

Marion Jones is an olympian, yeah? answer me this: who managed the drug testing: NSAC or USADA?