Comments Thread For: Mayweather Ready To Fight if Pacquiao Agrees To The Tests

[ATL_Boxer]

Rick put it the best. This fight should be scrapped because of this. This steroid foolishness has already corrupted too many people's thinking.

Regardless of whatever happens, or if the fight moves forward, Pacquiao has been affected in one way or another.

A. If Pacquiao does not agree to Mayweather's demand for Olympic-style drug testing, there is going to be a large number of people who will automatically say "Pacquiao was afraid of the tests because he was taking illegal substances."

B. If Pacquiao and Mayweather abandon the clause for Olympic-style drug testing, and Pacquiao wins, a large number of people will automatically say "Pacquiao beat Mayweather with the help of performance enhancing drugs."

C. If Pacquiao agrees to take the tests, comes up clean and then loses to Mayweather, a large number of people will automatically say "Pacquiao was unable to take his performance enhancing drugs and look what happened."

D. Even if Pacquiao took the tests, came up clean, and beat Mayweather - his performance in victory will dissected in every possible way because of the entire drug test dispute. If he doesn't throw as many punches there will be questions. If he doesn't win by knockout there will be questions. If he wins a close fight there will be questions. The mindset of "did Pacquiao have that extra edge" will play a strong role; just as they did after Shane Mosley admitted to inadvertently taking performance enhancing drugs and the public began to dissect his physical appearance, his ability to fight, his in-ring performances, etc. Of course, this means nothing unless the tests are random. If they are scheduled tests, then people will claim Manny found loopholes to beat the tests.

[ncpitbull]

How do you know this, how do you know that I dont trust this I don't that, taking blood from pac at night. Are you for real ? OMG keep piling on this idiot everyone he is bad for this site. He keeps spitting long idiotic posts.

Now you see why no one responds to him, but you. It's not worth it, his post give me migraines when I try and decipher them.

[deejd]

you didn"t answer the question <<<< lmao !

I know I only read the first three lines.... what was the question though?

[rommel357]

My dude Im a true fan who knows boxing history and I know full well "NO FIGHTER HAS EVER CAME UP FROM EVEN 126 TO 147 AND STEAMROLL THE BIGGER CHAMPIONS LIKE MANNY HAS" and I'm speaking of some of the greatest fighters of all time. If Manny was outboxing these bigger guys that would be another story but his skills haven't really improved at all he's the same guy just now (all of a sudden) he's walking through these bigger, stronger world class fighters (is this the same guy who wanted no part of a Marquez 3rd fight). Of course I know enough to know that during the Leonard/Hearns era both PBF and Manny would've been lucky to get past Aaron Pryor@ 140 let lone have a chance at 147. If you really wanna get fly Manny wouldnt have made it past Hector Camacho or Rosario at 135. So yes Im highly qualified to say that your boy needs to man up and take the damn test cause aint nobody fooled by this.

Now you're really talking out of your ass. Everyone knows that Manny has improved significantly since Morales. His right wasn't as effective and his head movement is much better, although still not good enough and he's still lacking defense and gets hit too much, but he still improved in that area, and not to mention that his footwork has gotten much better. So how is Manny's climb any different from Floyd coming up from 106 and dominating every opponent? Again, show me any credible proof that Manny is cheating, you can't because there is none. You never thought about it before until Crackhead Sr. brought it up and you being his personal ass licker believed him.

[deejd]

I am so not a Mayweather fan quite the opposite don't like his style and I think he uses is elbows and shoulders illegaly, the only boxer Manny beat that I really liked was Erik Morales and that was only he lost the first fight. Anyway I am only softening up because you have showed an extraordinary amount of ignorance and sometimes it is better to be nice to ignorant people. I have to go to work now so reply if you must. My last statement is that one this picture you paint of someone swooping in, in the middle of the night for a pint of blood is ridiculous and inaccurate. At most they are taking 10CC's (mL) of blood which will not even be felt and regenirated within two hours at most but maybe that's an Asian thing. Two Mayweather is subject to the same testing he has even now allowed Top Rank to pick someone to do the tests as long as they are random and within closer than 30 days before the fight so it is not abuse. Three, it seems evident you have a very defensive and idealistic mindset towards PACMAN its unrealistic but you are entitled to have it so that's why I apologize for the insults. Have a good rest of your day.

Exactly....

[Ogecca MaMa]

Rick put it the best. This fight should be scrapped because of this. This steroid foolishness has already corrupted too many people's thinking.

Regardless of whatever happens, or if the fight moves forward, Pacquiao has been affected in one way or another.

A. If Pacquiao does not agree to Mayweather's demand for Olympic-style drug testing, there is going to be a large number of people who will automatically say "Pacquiao was afraid of the tests because he was taking illegal substances."

B. If Pacquiao and Mayweather abandon the clause for Olympic-style drug testing, and Pacquiao wins, a large number of people will automatically say "Pacquiao beat Mayweather with the help of performance enhancing drugs."

C. If Pacquiao agrees to take the tests, comes up clean and then loses to Mayweather, a large number of people will automatically say "Pacquiao was unable to take his performance enhancing drugs and look what happened."

D. Even if Pacquiao took the tests, came up clean, and beat Mayweather - his performance in victory will dissected in every possible way because of the entire drug test dispute. If he doesn't throw as many punches there will be questions. If he doesn't win by knockout there will be questions. If he wins a close fight there will be questions. The mindset of "did Pacquiao have that extra edge" will play a strong role; just as they did after Shane Mosley admitted to inadvertently taking performance enhancing drugs and the public began to dissect his physical appearance, his ability to fight, his in-ring performances, etc. Of course, this means nothing unless the tests are random. If they are scheduled tests, then people will claim Manny found loopholes to beat the tests.

thats why they both need to be drug tested and fight.

[GameBullDawg]

I am so not a Mayweather fan quite the opposite don't like his style and I think he uses is elbows and shoulders illegaly, the only boxer Manny beat that I really liked was Erik Morales and that was only he lost the first fight. Anyway I am only softening up because you have showed an extraordinary amount of ignorance and sometimes it is better to be nice to ignorant people. I have to go to work now so reply if you must. My last statement is that one this picture you paint of someone swooping in, in the middle of the night for a pint of blood is ridiculous and inaccurate. At most they are taking 10CC's (mL) of blood which will not even be felt and regenirated within two hours at most but maybe that's an Asian thing. Two Mayweather is subject to the same testing he has even now allowed Top Rank to pick someone to do the tests as long as they are random and within closer than 30 days before the fight so it is not abuse. Three, it seems evident you have a very defensive and idealistic mindset towards PACMAN its unrealistic but you are entitled to have it so that's why I apologize for the insults. Have a good rest of your day.

Not a problem and have a good day yer self !!!

[ATL_Boxer]

thats why they both need to be drug tested and fight.

It won't matter for the reasons stated above by Rick. If Manny comes up negative, he either beat the system or stopped juicing. Do you really think if Manny beats little Floyd that Senior will say Manny's not on steroids?? No! He's just going to say he found a way to get around it. Manny won't get credit if he wins so he should just bounce and not waste his time. This fight has been tarnished for both parties but mainly Manny and it's a shame people can't see that.

[rommel357]

c'mon.....this argument?

the demand for a fighter to pay 10 million dollars per pound, for coming in overweight is unprecedented......floyd had nothing to hide, no reason to run, so he accepted the silly stipulation. why can't manny?


also, i say manny's a cheater, and i will continue to say he's a cheater. i have no HARD facts, but if you know anything about the judicial system, many cases are solved without a "smoking gun," so to speak. circumstancial evidence carries some weight, is basically my argument.

all i know, if you have the balls to walk away from the highest grossing fight in boxing history, basically push away 40-50 million dollars, AND let all of your fans down in the process - all b/c you refuse to be RANDOMLY drug tested, that tells me all i need to know right there.....and by your refusal, you give myself, and everybody else, to draw their own conclusions......

in other words, when ppl start calling manny a "cheat," there's no room for anyone, including you, to get upset, especially since the man had the power to prove otherwise, and declined.

So basically you're saying that you can call anyone a cheater without any proof or merit. Doesn't matter if the accusation is baseless, so i guess Floyd is a cheater too, just because i say so. And what circumstancial evidence are you talking about?

BTW, my argument is based on pride and principle, which is alot more than you and the rest of the *****s arguments.

[Gutz]

thats why they both need to be drug tested and fight.

Well no shiet.. but who should do the drug test.. Mayweather way or Manny way?


this is the real problem...