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You mayweather fans dont really understand... Its easy for you guys to say that its only a little of blood. because you are not a filipino!!!! We filipinos has certain beliefs ok?????!!!! Why dont you respect that????? Pacquiao agreed to have his blood taken right? additional random blood test doesnt matter here because its not the standard procedure in boxinnnnG?????? you should respect everyone's culture moronssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you think its only bloodd???? you cant see the point!!!! most boxer's comes from different nation have certain cultures and beliefs and nobody should take that for granted that's why in boxing they have these procedure already set-up and no one should easily modify the existing rulesss. That's why in modern world if you are in the modern world. we consider a persons beliefs, culture, religion and etc. in order to understand one another and work hand and hand without conflict of interest. Lance armstrong is no manny pacquaio ok????? he is not a filipino ok?!!! different race different culture different belief. So can you respect what manny believes???
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Says who? The Mayweathers?Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
Last time I checked, Pacquiao has satisfied about a decade worth of "good citizenship" by abiding all laws by the NEVADA SPORTS ATHLETIC COMMISSION.
They are the ones responsible, and their jurisdiction to enforce fairness in the state of Nevada concerning with any sports competition.
Not the Mayweathers.Comment
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Do you even know NSAC's role? They regulate all contests and exhibitions of unarmed combat within the state of Nevada, including licensure and supervision of promoters, boxers, kickboxers, mixed martial arts fighters, seconds, ring officials, managers, and matchmakers. The commission is the final authority on licensing matters, having the ability to approve, deny, revoke, or suspend all licenses for unarmed combat. Because of Nevada's role as a center for combat sports, the NSAC is regarded as the preeminent state athletic commission in the United States. (see wikipedia)Originally posted by Soir View Post
Question: What are the gloves sizes based on the boxer/kickboxer's weight?
Answer: Athletes (boxers/kickboxers) weighing-in up to and including 135 pounds must wear 8 oz. gloves in competition, while athletes weighing-in over 135 pounds (junior welterweight class and above) must wear 10 oz. gloves in competition. However, athletes weighing in over 135 but not more than 147 pounds may wear 8 ounce gloves in competition if both athletes agree to do so in writing. (from NSAC website)
So Soir, the decision made by both parties were within guidelines set forth by the NSAC. Also, each governing body ie: WBO, WBC, etc all have their guidlines as well such as coming in overweight at the scales, minimum purse bids, types of drinks allowed, date, etc. That's the reason for the sanctioning fees and to determine what title is on the line.
The rules for boxing are determined by the governing body. They set the standards for the ring as well as the other rules for activities. Boxing Sanctioning Bodies and Organizations, have different safety codes and regulations. As far as I know, standard rings sizes are: 20'x20', 22'x22', and 24'x24'.
Going back to NSAC on testing terms: (memo dated 05/24/2008 to all nevada licensees, where mayweather wants to fight.)
Subject matter: Additional steroid and drug testing
Through all of our collective efforts, we have come a long way in eradicating the use of prohibited substances (e.g., steroids) in unarmed combat in Nevada. There is however much work to be done. While the vast majority of our licensed fighters understand the health risks and unfair competitive advantage associated with the use of prohibited substances, the Commission's public meetings that these non-compliant fighters have become very sophisticated in the timing of taking prohibited substances.
Therefore, in addition to the steroid and drug tests performed on contestants on fight night, the Commission will be requiring fighters licensed by the Commission, and applicants for such licensure, to submit to these tests when ordered by the Commission at other times during the year. (The costs of these "pre-fight night" tests will be paid by the Commission if funds are available; otherwise the costs will be paid by the fighter or the promoter.) The process for selecting which fighters are required to submit to these tests will be based on (i) a random selection; (ii) some indication that a particular fighter may be using a prohibited substance; (iii) the fact that a fighter has previously tested positive for using a prohibited substance; (iv) a request by a Commissioner, or (iv) any other cause determined by the Commission.
The Commision will contact the fighter directly with the ordering of the test, the testing laboratory to be used by the fighter and the timeframe within which the test must be taken. The test results shall be sent directly to the fighter and the Commission only. If a fighter either fails to take the test within the required timeframe or fails the test, the Commission mahy refuse to license the fighter, refuse to allow the fighter to compete, and/or descipline the fighter. Such discipline may include, but not be limited to, license revocation or suspension, and a mandatory fine.
Not so black and white at all. Bottom line this is the biggest fight of the decade. Everyone wants a piece of the pie: money, pride, glory, history. No one wants to lose. Legalities are big issues, you can't just buy a house just cause you think you can buy, there's so many parties involved and contracts need ironed out and signed.
My opinion, fighting in March is like jerking off, feels good but not quite the real thing. To be honest I think Mayweather has a better chance of wining. Fighting at the end of the year is the real *****, feels real good. All of this would have time to marinate, and Pac will have more time to train and win the fight, the best ending to 2010. This fight has to and will be made.Comment
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I just cant imagine any reason for pac not to take the tests. still trying, hold on let me try again, nope still cant, please someone give me a good reason besides "principles" why pac wont take the tests. everyone seems to be bending over backwards to accomodate his teams requests, but if someone else makes some requests they are rediculous and offending. i think pacs sets of karaoke between training take much longer than his test will.Comment
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Ellerbe is right (no ****).Comment
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Originally posted by chardrnm View Post
I'm not a Floyd fan but explain to me this culture thing for blood so I can understand it.Comment
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did the comission also make the weight demands of his previous fights? i dont think so, they were contract, just like this blood testing is contract. if he doesent want it dont sign. but you have to wonder why he wouldnt. he might be clean, but he doesent want to prove it. it couldnt be religion because its hard to imagine that tattoo's would be ok, and beating people to a pulp either,lol. just kidding about the last part.Comment
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Easy, mind games. Didn't Mayweather say in one of the 24/7 series that a fight can be won before entering the ring. It's all about having that edge. Example Colts yesterday loss by choice. Everyone now debating will they have the edge come playoff. Manny submitting to floyd tells floyd he's the man...and as floyd and jerry jones believes, controversy sells. More controversy more public attention, more attention, the more people will spend to see this fight. Good for money. Besides i think floyd is playing all of us, come on now he wanted USADA now is backing off and saying another organization can be chosen. And do you think that if the commission authorizes the test that manny will back down?Originally posted by mofrekinfoe View PostComment
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Nonsense, i bet fillipinos donate blood to help out in hospitals in case of car accidents e.t.c. Everyone donates blood...Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
And don't tell me about culture i'm a black man from South Africa, no one has beliefs more than ours...Comment
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