You Guys Have To Admit That This Isnt Right

[Main Source]

cause he wants to make the fight too. he said he was willing to undergo the extra tests cause it was such a big deal to the mayweather camp. it is known that he stated before he was uncomfortable giving blood before the fight. interpretations of arum and roach of the time frame may be different, but that has always been consistent. no blood close before the fight.

but when gbp and people from mayweather's camp came out with damaging statements during the negotiations, he got irked. and now threatening to sue. i think he felt he was the one willing to compromise, yet portrayed as he trying to hide something.

of course, all i said would be pointless if he was guilty of juicing. but let's assume he's innocent cause that's what he is right now according to the evidence we do have. he has the right to get mad, has the right to reject the tests, and the right to file a lawsuit if he felt his name was damaged.

Floyd Sr is not the only one who has had his say about this subject. And he was not the first either.

Boxing is rotten. You'd be surprised just how many athletes would be tested positive in this sport if the ADA-tests were mandatory.

Mosley's link to BALCO will hunt him forever. It's only HBO who wants to let it slide and think we all forgot about it. He learned his lesson though. However, I wonder why his career didn't turn out the way Marion Jones' did? It makes you wonder. Like I said, boxing is rotten. I think it was a good call for Mayweather to demand these random tests by USADA standards.

[littlemac]

A ton of Pac fans and even myself were convinced that the blood testing was ok, just not the day of the fight. We thought maybe 48hrs were ok, 3 days were ok, 5 days, or maybe even a week. Random was ok, just as long as it wasnt the day of the fight. Now the **** is pretty official that despite what some try to say in the media, there stance is 30 days out and non random. They want to test right after the New Year, then wait over a whole month and test again on Feb 13th, and then wait all the way until after the fight. Come on now. Lets say that Pac was juicing. Does he have any chance to fail the test with those dates I just mentioned? Hell NO! 3 test, only 2 before the fight, both over a month apart, and both times he knows exactly when the date is.

Alot of Pac people argued the whole time that if it was like that then it basically would be bad but its not like that. They argued that it was random and that they would allow it a few days or a week before. Now you see its not true. Even with that the Floyd side has given in and they are willing to change some things but they want it random and they dont want all these 30plus day windows. It defeats the whole purpose. Im sure you guys will defend it like it doesnt matter though. I was on Pac's side in some of this but its because I thought they would agree to random and maybe Floyd should accept like 3 days to a week out. Thats not the case though. Whats even more messed up is instead of negotating, it was Arum who immediatly said the fight was off and they are going to do something else. Floyd's team never said they are moving on.

Arum said that if another group does it besides the USADA then they will take it but Floyd's camp dont want that so they are moving on. Then Schaffer came back saying, thats cool and they will use a different source but they just want it to be random and closer than those 30 day splits. Arum is now like, **** it. Were not doing it anymore no matter what. That **** dont sound iffy to you? Again, one of the #1 responses from Pac fans and even some Floyd fans were like, how come Floyd's team wont accept it if they are doing it like a week before and immediatly after. It should be in his system. Now we find out that it was never there real stance. There stance is 30 days out and after the fight. Even the most die hard Pac fans know that he could juice and still easily pass a test in that situation.

That **** looks fishy to me now and there is no way you can put this on Floyd's side. Arum aint even willing to talk. You have alot of Pac fans saying thats good what Arum is doing and that Pac should stick with the lawsuit. What kind of coward talk is that? All of us want to see the fight. I myself took up for Pac when I thought it was random and within a week but 30 days and non random? Come on man. Then over 30 days from the 1st test to the 2nd test also. No one is even talking about that one but you can do alot in that time also. All the Pac fans whole stance was that Pac will do it, just not the day of the fight. Thats what they all say but its not true. They want 30 days.

That **** aint right. Then they want to drop it to fight Paulie or Foreman? There so in a rush to do that? I just hope they come to there senses and come back to this fight. The thing thats so crazy is that they knew ahead of time. Everyone knew what Senior wanted and the Pac side said it was ok. Now they are tripping like they didnt know. If Arum was this upset then why did he even take the contract to Pac and go this far with it from the jump? Something changed and now they dont want it. Then they want to fight Paulie of all people. The same guy who accused them more than anyone and publicly. How does that sound?

NICE ONE

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd Sr is not the only one who has had his say about this subject. And he was not the first either.

Boxing is rotten. You'd be surprised just how many athletes would be tested positive in this sport if the ADA-tests were mandatory.

Mosley's link to BALCO will hunt him forever. It's only HBO who wants to let it slide and think we all forgot about it. He learned his lesson though. However, I wonder why his career didn't turn out the way Marion Jones' did? It makes you wonder. Like I said, boxing is rotten. I think it was a good call for Mayweather to demand these random tests by USADA standards.

Interesting that you brought up Shane.

That happened, what, 6 years ago?


Why wait until now?

Why not question any other fighters if this is solely based on being fair in the sport?

lol, being fair. So fair and respectful to the sport of boxing,

that he came in overweight, purposely,

in his last fight.

[-The Glove-]

Nice try, but still, a fail.

[Main Source]

Interesting that you brought up Shane.

That happened, what, 6 years ago?


Why wait until now?

Why not question any other fighters if this is solely based on being fair in the sport?

lol, being fair. So fair and respectful to the sport of boxing,

that he came in overweight, purposely,

in his last fight.

Now that I brought up Mosley (who's a great fighter by the way), I would like to address that Zab Judah also demanded Mosley to be tested more effectively when their fight was being scheduled.

As for Floyd being overweight against Marquez is not the same thing as taking illegal substances. I really do hope you can see the difference right? And he was fined...Pacquiao and his team demanded $10million for every pound over 147. Floyd agreed to that. Why can't Pacquiao agree to go through the USADA protocols? It's not like he's alone. Mayweather has got to go through the same testing method.

[littlemac]

i agree. it would be good for the sport to impose stricter drug testing... but manny has every right to reject it. he isn't obligated to take the tests, especially when the reason behind the test is not for the betterment of the sport, but because of malicious attacks on his name and accomplishments.

LOL this is so ****ing weak man. Now the excuse of Manny refusing to test is because of name calling lol..........

List of excuses
1. Needle Phobia
2. Disruptive to training camp
3. Will make him weak
4. Superstitions
5. Now because of name calling.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Now that I brought up Mosley (who's a great fighter by the way), I would like to address that Zab Judah also demanded Mosley to be tested more effectively when their fight was being scheduled.

As for Floyd being overweight against Marquez is not the same thing as taking illegal substances. I really do hope you can see the difference right? And he was fined...Pacquiao and his team demanded $10million for every pound over 147. Floyd agreed to that. Why can't Pacquiao agree to go through the USADA protocols? It's not like he's alone. Mayweather has got to go through the same testing method.

Thanks for bringing up Zab as well. When Zab brought it up, GBP wanted no part of it and didn't do it. Now, they are suddenly advocates for another testing process?



Cheating is cheating no matter how you slice it.

Why hasn't Floyd used this type of testing before?

Its not his first professional fight.


I mean, if anyone has been on steroids, its Floyd.

Fought at 106, moved all the way up to 154 and won a title. Has 5 stoppages in his last 10 fights, 4 of which have come at 140 and above (More than Manny Pacquiao in the same weight range.) Has brittle hands, suffered a broken rib, gets easily rattled with emotions, etc.

[cixthree]

What boxing publications made an extremely huge deal out of his adultery?

Huge as in, the leading story on major news stations.

so ask urself this. A single accusation of cheating = no big deal. A single accusation of PEDs= a big deal. Mannys reaction and resistance to set a new standard in sports, that's y. "its never been done before" ok let's start it then. "why all of a sudden" y not? This can be used as a platform for kids all over the world wanting to be great. Those short/skinny that think u need enhances to make it. Let's show our kids they don't need that.. All this dodging a test for this and that is bs, manny should WANT to do this. Now, he NEEDS to to do it. If the fight goes on I can hear the announcer now "manny did not test, is his image hurt by this?" YES!

[Vasyl’s dad]

so ask urself this. A single accusation of cheating = no big deal. A single accusation of PEDs= a big deal. Mannys reaction and resistance to set a new standard in sports, that's y. "its never been done before" ok let's start it then. "why all of a sudden" y not? This can be used as a platform for kids all over the world wanting to be great. Those short/skinny that think u need enhances to make it. Let's show our kids they don't need that.. All this dodging a test for this and that is bs, manny should WANT to do this. Now, he NEEDS to to do it. If the fight goes on I can hear the announcer now "manny did not test, is his image hurt by this?" YES!

What boxing publications or major news outlets made a big deal out of Pacs marital affairs?

[The Great Shark]

I've also stood by this issue with the thought that Pacquiao has secrets. No way such a supposed noble man as Pacquiao can go without taking the tests to prove his innocence.

As innocent as every Pacquiao stan states, his own guilt will get to him.