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  • OK, assuming there is an HGH in pacs blood. What's fearful about it?

    Mayweather's the stronger, bigger, and skillfull fighter.

    He won't fight?

    That's sure sign of:

    1. being a ****
    2. bullying
    3. Tarnishing Pac's reputation
    4. jerk
    Last edited by takler; 12-27-2009, 03:17 PM.

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    • It's a shame if this fight doesn't happen. There's plenty of people to point fingers at and who to blame depends on who you're a fan of. Bottom line is that it's bad for boxing if this fight doesn't happen.

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      • Originally posted by 72-10 View Post
        It's a shame if this fight doesn't happen. There's plenty of people to point fingers at and who to blame depends on who you're a fan of. Bottom line is that it's bad for boxing if this fight doesn't happen.
        As a sports fan, guys should not be participating if they're taking steroids or other performance enhancing drugs. Besides sportsmanship, there are serious health issues with the use of those drugs. Boxing, like all other sports, needs to clean up. Side-stepping the issue because one guy doesn't want to participate is counter productive. They have a chance to get it right, finally.

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        • Originally posted by takler View Post
          OK, assuming there is an HGH in pacs blood. What's fearful about it?

          Mayweather's the stronger, bigger, and skillfull fighter.

          He won't fight?

          That's sure sign of:

          1. being a ****
          2. bullying
          3. Tarnishing Pac's reputation
          4. jerk
          This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. This is not bullying, being a jerk or tarnishing Pac's reputation. The only way it tarnishes Pac's reputation is if he chooses not to participate, and there isn't reason why he shouldn't participate.

          To be honest, I think Mayweather should choose to participate in the testing even if Pac doesn't, take the fight and hopefully beat Pac soundly and make him look like even more of an *******. I actually liked Pac until he chose not to take part in this drug testing. He had a choice and he chose wrong.

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          • Originally posted by 72-10 View Post
            Bottom line is that it's bad for boxing if this fight doesn't happen.
            and its bad 4 boxing 2 that one of its biggest stars is treating the public like morons.

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            • Originally posted by Red_Menace View Post
              As a sports fan, guys should not be participating if they're taking steroids or other performance enhancing drugs. Besides sportsmanship, there are serious health issues with the use of those drugs. Boxing, like all other sports, needs to clean up. Side-stepping the issue because one guy doesn't want to participate is counter productive. They have a chance to get it right, finally.
              Hear hear, even more important in boxing.

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              • Originally posted by Red_Menace View Post
                You're an idiot. He can take whatever drugs he wants during camp and cycle off the drugs so it won't show up on the day of the fight. He'd have a huge boost to his training camp, making sure he came in at a proper weight, as well as being able to train more in a shorter period of time. You have no idea what you're talking about.
                I never said anything about not testing during training. Manny agreed to 3 blood tests and urine testing throughout, the contention is that 3 blood tests would not be enough testing in the event that he was "on" something.

                Your idea that he would take PEDs or HGHs to make weight is pretty silly since 145 is his walk around weight. He's not the one whose weight will be scrutinized around weigh in time ... that would be the guy would agreed to 144 and then decided to come in at 146 rather than chance draining himself.

                But if you're still hanging onto your theory that Manny would take something to make weight then wouldn't he still need to be on them to maintain that weight for the weigh in.

                PEDs and HGHs aren't drug that you can just piss out in a day, they stay in your body for days, weeks.

                Oh and one last thing ... HE'S NOT ON ANYTHING! Why can't you *****s just let him pee in the cup like everyone else in the history of boxing, give his blood sample right after the fight and be done with it.

                If Floyd Sr told you that you that Tiger Woods was a ******, you'd probably believe that too.

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                • Originally posted by red_shoelace View Post
                  I never said anything about not testing during training. Manny agreed to 3 blood tests and urine testing throughout, the contention is that 3 blood tests would not be enough testing in the event that he was "on" something.

                  Your idea that he would take PEDs or HGHs to make weight is pretty silly since 145 is his walk around weight. He's not the one whose weight will be scrutinized around weigh in time ... that would be the guy would agreed to 144 and then decided to come in at 146 rather than chance draining himself.

                  But if you're still hanging onto your theory that Manny would take something to make weight then wouldn't he still need to be on them to maintain that weight for the weigh in.

                  PEDs and HGHs aren't drug that you can just piss out in a day, they stay in your body for days, weeks.

                  Oh and one last thing ... HE'S NOT ON ANYTHING! Why can't you *****s just let him pee in the cup like everyone else in the history of boxing, give his blood sample right after the fight and be done with it.

                  If Floyd Sr told you that you that Tiger Woods was a ******, you'd probably believe that too.
                  Actually, you are wrong. There are PEDs that will clear in hours to days, which is why random blood testing is important, not fixed dates that are known ahead of time. The blood testing has to be random, and it has to be able to occur at any time during camp, early or late.

                  I'm not saying Manny would do it for weight. That is one reason why a boxer might use banned substances. Manny would probably use something to improve his recovery time, so he could train more times per day. There is also the blood doping issue.

                  I couldn't care less about Floyd Sr. To me, this has nothing to do with Manny or Floyd. This kind of testing should have been done in all fights starting a long time ago. Pac is basically just an ******* for avoiding it. If he's clean, then he should agree to do the tests.

                  I'm a guy that always cheered for the underdog against Floyd. I wanted to see anybody knock him out to shut his mouth. I liked Pac. Not anymore. In this case, I want to see Floyd beat his face in after a clean test.

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                  • Originally posted by Red_Menace View Post
                    Actually, you are wrong. There are PEDs that will clear in hours to days, which is why random blood testing is important, not fixed dates that are known ahead of time. The blood testing has to be random, and it has to be able to occur at any time during camp, early or late.

                    I'm not saying Manny would do it for weight. That is one reason why a boxer might use banned substances. Manny would probably use something to improve his recovery time, so he could train more times per day. There is also the blood doping issue.

                    I couldn't care less about Floyd Sr. To me, this has nothing to do with Manny or Floyd. This kind of testing should have been done in all fights starting a long time ago. Pac is basically just an ******* for avoiding it. If he's clean, then he should agree to do the tests.

                    I'm a guy that always cheered for the underdog against Floyd. I wanted to see anybody knock him out to shut his mouth. I liked Pac. Not anymore. In this case, I want to see Floyd beat his face in after a clean test.
                    Hey dumbass, could you please enlighten us and tell us what kind fo PED disappears in your system within hours. Also...HGH is suppose to bulk you up not lose weight. PACQUIAO walks around 145 to 155lbs when he is not fighting. PACQUIAO agree to blood testing, but he just won't concede to what the MAYWEATHER wants. Another thing your already judging PACQUIAO over the ****ing immoral MAYWEATHER when PACQUIAO hasn't even been found guilty of anything. BOTTOMLINE is MAYWEATHER is scared to lose, he is using this as an alibi if the fight happens and he loses. Mayweather is trying to psychologically throw PACQUIAO's camp off. If MAYWEATHER claims to be the best, then agree to the three blood testing and unlimited urine test that PACQUIAO agreed to and fight him. Bottomline GAYWEATHER and his camp called a bluff and PACQUIAO called them, now he is afraid to go all in and lose everything. Mayweather is afraid to lose, but just being a MAYWEATHER is that your already a loser.

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                    • Originally posted by Datu Puti View Post
                      Hey dumbass, could you please enlighten us and tell us what kind fo PED disappears in your system within hours. Also...HGH is suppose to bulk you up not lose weight. PACQUIAO walks around 145 to 155lbs when he is not fighting. PACQUIAO agree to blood testing, but he just won't concede to what the MAYWEATHER wants. Another thing your already judging PACQUIAO over the ****ing immoral MAYWEATHER when PACQUIAO hasn't even been found guilty of anything. BOTTOMLINE is MAYWEATHER is scared to lose, he is using this as an alibi if the fight happens and he loses. Mayweather is trying to psychologically throw PACQUIAO's camp off. If MAYWEATHER claims to be the best, then agree to the three blood testing and unlimited urine test that PACQUIAO agreed to and fight him. Bottomline GAYWEATHER and his camp called a bluff and PACQUIAO called them, now he is afraid to go all in and lose everything. Mayweather is afraid to lose, but just being a MAYWEATHER is that your already a loser.
                      Who said Pac is taking HGH? He'd be more likely to take a steroid to improve his recovery time during training, so he could train more often. I'm not even saying that he's on steroids or other PEDs. I honestly have no idea. I just think it's bull**** that he won't take the tests. Any real athlete would take them and clear the air. Over and done with. There is nothing disruptive or harmless about taking them. It would be disruptive, or be an issue at all if Pac had just agreed. Also, I'm not a scientist, but the reason the olympic style testing is completely random is because there are drugs that clear faster than days and weeks. Look at the testing they do for pro cycling, and you'll see the lengths they have to go to if they want to keep the sport clean. Sorry, guy, but I don't give a **** about either of them as people. I just think that Pac is being an ******* by refusing the tests. He's setting a bad precedent. I know why the promoters don't want a clean sport, but Pac should agree. As a fan, don't you want the sport clean? This would be the perfect place to set an example and do things right.

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