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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #101
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
    Pacquiao's team disagreed with the random aspect of the testing, that defeats the purpose. Might as well disagree with the whole thing.
    maybe at first.

    hard to keep track with the stories and proposals changing so fast.

    from the last counter offers i saw they were fine with random testing just not the kind of random testing that is possible with mayweather's proposal.

    mayweather's proposal allows random testing at any day at any time.

    roach is okay with random testing at any day but at a set or more flexible time. (meaning come any random day but do it at a set time or a decent time. say camp hours. no need for 3am in the morning at pac's house type testing)



    random testing on random days during camp hours up to 2-3 days before the fight , a blood test right after the fight done by a neutral 3rd party acceptable to both camps.

    that should get it done.

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    • miguelecheverri
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      #102
      The truth behind Pacquiao's Refusal to take the blood test to be done by USADA

      Pacquiao wants to submit to any drugtest but he didn't want USADA to do it, because they compromise with PBF and Golden Boy. According to the news, Pacquiao was concerned that his training will be sabotage if the drugtest body was recommended by Floyd Mayweather and his Promoter. This drug test is easy for Pacquiao if and only if the Blood Testing Body wasn't recommended by Mayweather nor Golden Boy. I recommend that the NEVADA must be the one who will choose the body who will conduct the blood test. This won't allow either Pacquiao or Mayweather's camp to sabotage the result. The truth will be prevailed in the end.

      The lead author of the study, Dr. Hau Liu of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center in San Jose, California stated, that it does not help athletic performance in any way. Dr. Liu even went as far as to state that it may worsen athletic performance a bit. The study found that HGH does add muscle, but they found that it does not appear to improve strength. They did find that HGH actually caused side effects such as swelling and fatigue. Spread the word. It takes skills, speed, and defense.

      New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury
      consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and
      combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
      “I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all
      drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t
      miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes,
      I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing.
      If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in
      urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the
      kidney without being detected.” If a lot boxers were caught taking up drugs using only urine test for the past decades of boxing, why, a guy named Floyd Mayweather demands test other than what is used before? Is Floyd up to something? Is he planning behind our knowledge, like to sabotage Pacquiao's training. I agree with blood test and I think Pacquiao too, but let the Nevada state find a blood testing body to conduct the blood test and not came from either Pacquiao or Mayweather's camp. The funny thing is, due to alot of demands each day, Is Floyd the one who doesn’t want the fight to pursue? And who is Floyd Mayweather to create the rules?

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      • shacasulu
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        #103
        Originally posted by miguelecheverri
        Pacquiao wants to submit to any drugtest but he didn't want USADA to do it, because they compromise with PBF and Golden Boy. According to the news, Pacquiao was concerned that his training will be sabotage if the drugtest body was recommended by Floyd Mayweather and his Promoter. This drug test is easy for Pacquiao if and only if the Blood Testing Body wasn't recommended by Mayweather nor Golden Boy. I recommend that the NEVADA must be the one who will choose the body who will conduct the blood test. This won't allow either Pacquiao or Mayweather's camp to sabotage the result. The truth will be prevailed in the end.

        The lead author of the study, Dr. Hau Liu of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center in San Jose, California stated, that it does not help athletic performance in any way. Dr. Liu even went as far as to state that it may worsen athletic performance a bit. The study found that HGH does add muscle, but they found that it does not appear to improve strength. They did find that HGH actually caused side effects such as swelling and fatigue. Spread the word. It takes skills, speed, and defense.

        New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury
        consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and
        combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
        “I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all
        drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t
        miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes,
        I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing.
        If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in
        urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the
        kidney without being detected.” If a lot boxers were caught taking up drugs using only urine test for the past decades of boxing, why, a guy named Floyd Mayweather demands test other than what is used before? Is Floyd up to something? Is he planning behind our knowledge, like to sabotage Pacquiao's training. I agree with blood test and I think Pacquiao too, but let the Nevada state find a blood testing body to conduct the blood test and not came from either Pacquiao or Mayweather's camp. The funny thing is, due to alot of demands each day, Is Floyd the one who doesn’t want the fight to pursue? And who is Floyd Mayweather to create the rules?
        pacquiao camp changed the rules for his fight against cotto. cotto had the right to come in at 147 for his wbo belt. yet pacquiao being hard headed about making that joke record about 7 championships in 7 divisions, he didnt budge and wanted the fight to be at 145 for cotto's belt. this **** went on for a week or so where both sides didnt want that but eventually somebody caved and that was cotto. the rules were changed so pacquiao talking about mayweather changing the rules give me a break!! pacquiao you did the same damn thing to get that joke record of 7 championships in 7 divisions.

        i know i will get the "but catchweight championship fights have been done before and this type of blood testing has not"

        there is a first time for somethings and this is one of them. hell maybe this type of **** happened when the first championship catchweight fight happened or maybe it didnt but the point is that the **** happened first at some point in history.

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        • Buckfever
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          #104
          This is all about HGH period. That's what they want to rule out and current testing will not catch it. It's a pervasive issue through out professional sports not just boxing.

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          • Calilloyd
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            #105
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            Mayweather is asking for demands that are unprecedented. If Manny had been caught using PED's in the past, Floyds request would be reasonable. Since he hasn't, its an unreasonable request. If Floyd really wants to fight he'll allow the same testing that has been done to every fighter for his past 40 fights. If he doesn't want the fight he'll keep pressing this issue without any proof, only speculation. As Scott9945 already said in another thread, Pac's on obligation is to the NSAC.
            Neither has Shane Mosley. These excuses are amazing.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #106
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              Neither has Shane Mosley. These excuses are amazing.
              Check this out,

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              • JAB5239
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                #107
                Originally posted by Calilloyd
                Neither has Shane Mosley. These excuses are amazing.

                Why does he want this testing now? For a so called easy fight no less. Why now?

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                • Calilloyd
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  I don't have a problem with the testing, I have a problem with it being used by Floyd as leverage. I've already said that if it becomes a rule or a law I'm all aboard. It should apply to everyone, not just this one fight. I mean where were the cries for Olympic testing for the Malignaggi-Diaz fight?
                  Did you have problem with the 10 million gor pound overweight fine Mayweather agreed to? Mayweather has never come in over 147 for a welterweight. That's also "unprecedented" but he agreed to it. Did you have the same problem with that? I doubt it. Which is why I know if the situation was reversed you would be all in favor of Mayweather getting tested. And they are both taking the test so how does Mayweather have any advantage with it?
                  Last edited by Calilloyd; 12-25-2009, 10:25 PM.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    Why does he want this testing now? For a so called easy fight no less. Why now?

                    Why did Roach want 10 weeks of training for an easier fight than Cotto? I can play that game too. And to answer your question because there have been su****ions surrounding Pacquiao. And why not take the test if you're clean?

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                      Ah! Roach: "We'll pass any test in the world with flying colors."

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