Arum says yes on NSAC doing the test

[IMDAZED]

Now you're just acting like an idiot and an advocate to see Floyd get what ever he wants.

Have you ever actually fought before, I'm just curious?

Plenty of times, starting with Brian Peecee in second grade who tried to skip me in the lunch line. Wtf?

I'm acting like an idiot? Who is the dumbass that thinks Leonard made those demands for a psychological advantage, not because uhh...he actually WANTED those advantages? Get lost. You're just another apologist who can't see how ****** their arguments sound. Keep trying to explain to yourself how the testing is fine...just not for this fight because it's the first time.

[IMDAZED]

manny didn't renege on agreeing to additional testing.

they just disagreed with some of it.

he never said he won't do testing. they were just trying to negotiate how it was done.



you need to see that there are 2 sides to this story.

this issue is not a pure black and white issue.

You can't negotiate how it's done with the anti-doping agency, who does Pacquiao think he is? His counteroffer is a joke and shows he has no interest in random testing, which is the point. There is no gray area when it comes to steroids, either you man up or you don't. Imagine Serena Williams telling the anti-doping agency, "No problem, just don't test me on these dates because I get my hair and nails done." Nonsense.

[horge]

Why didn't he ask for this testing for the Marquez fight than?

Thatwas a special case.
Marquez' blood was all there WAS to be tested, because
the ****sucker insisted on drinking all of his own urine.

[IMDAZED]

Man, I'm done. I'll let Ray & co continue this. People are too biased to see clearly. Hard to see the whole picture when youre standing so close it.

[Left Hook Tua]

You can't negotiate how it's done with the anti-doping agency, who does Pacquiao think he is? His counteroffer is a joke and shows he has no interest in random testing, which is the point. There is no gray area when it comes to steroids, either you man up or you don't. Imagine Serena Williams telling the anti-doping agency, "No problem, just don't test me on these dates because I get my hair and nails done." Nonsense.

ummm..... you can try when it's not REQUIRED and is just part of negotiations.

pacquiao is not trying to negotiate with the NSAC , WBO , etc. here.

he's not refusing any of the boxing governing bodies and athletic commission's tests.

this is all a request from mayweather. they have the right to demand things but that doesn't mean pacquiao has to abide by them.

it's negotiations. they say what they want. pac says what they'll allow. they meet in the middle. the fight gets made.

at least that's how it should have worked.

[JAB5239]

Thats one of your worst comments ,,,,, we are talking PEDS here , put your mind for one second into Floyd thinking his opponent might be juiced , the first time he gets hit hard where is his mind ,,,, this isnt twiddly winks , a fighter can be killed , thats why Floyd has a right to ask for the worlds most accurate testing , it doesnt matter if its never been asked before considering its the biggest fight in history containing 2 of the best ever , its the right place for boxing to look at itself ,,,, Manny should be a man and say Im clean any test welcome if Floyd has the same test at the same time Manny should take it ,,, its the right thing to do , 1 to save the fight 2 to paint boxing as clean fair sport looking to implement all it can for a zero PEDs tolerance .

Look, Floyd has said Pac will be an easy fight, so why does he want this testing done now? Its a psychological ploy in my opinion.

Im all for a new and tougher testing procedure being implemented. I just think there are better ways to go about it.

[JAB5239]

Plenty of times, starting with Brian Peecee in second grade who tried to skip me in the lunch line. Wtf?

Yeah, thats what I thought.

I'm acting like an idiot? Who is the dumbass that thinks Leonard made those demands for a psychological advantage, not because uhh...he actually WANTED those advantages?

Now you're trying to put words in my mouth. I never said he made those demands for a psychological advantage, but by getting those demands he HAD the psychological advantage. Have you ever felt empowered by getting your way? Have you ever felt upset or bitter by not getting what you wanted. Its ALL psychological.

Get lost. You're just another apologist who can't see how ****** their arguments sound. Keep trying to explain to yourself how the testing is fine...just not for this fight because it's the first time.

And you're just another nuthugger arguing to make sure his man gets what he wants

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yeah except if Manny passed these tests, Mayweather's words ring hollow. You guys realize that if Manny hadn't reneged on his word that this would be a non-issue right?

You know what's weird about this whole thing? You have people on here claiming these are MIND games, like Floyd somehow is a co-conspirator with the anti-doping agency. As if they told him beforehand how many tests they would give the fighters. Then he used his psychic powers to determine that Manny would agree to Olympic testing measures but would have issues with the dates set forth. The dates Floyd knew about because he's working secretly with the anti-doping agency. LOL. Amazing how the mind works.

That's another issue. Are people forgetting that Roach said he'd take and pass any test?

[S A M U R A I]

That's another issue. Are people forgetting that Roach said he'd take and pass any test?

I don't remember him saying he would "take", I only heard "Manny will pass any test in the world". Where did he say he would take any test in the world?



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[Left Hook Tua]

That's another issue. Are people forgetting that Roach said he'd take and pass any test?

i don't think they have a problem with the test their doing.

just how they do it.

i think more the problem is when they do the bloodtesting not the test itself.

they need to work out a deal that pac has to take the type of tests they want but with a condition on when.

same random tests but held at certain times of the day (say during camp hours) and none a couple of days before the fight but 1 right after the fight.

i think that'll work. i think that'll get the fight made.